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There may be no such thing as a racist fact, but there's definitely such a thing as racist dissemination of a fact. If, for example, you post a list of facts a

There may be no such thing as a racist fact, but there's definitely such a thing as racist dissemination of a fact. If, for example, you post a list of facts about crime rates among a particular ethnic group apropos of nothing, it's probably racist, regardless of whether or not the facts are true. That said, in this case I think it's just the bad taste that one often gets in their mouth knowing that a racist might read a comment you make and have it confirm their prejudices. As for how it's combating information: is there meaningful information lost here? He could have told you what colour his pants were, too, but it wouldn't add a whole hell of a lot to the story.

randyrand 11y ago
> is there meaningful information lost here? IMO, its not so much the loss of information, its the implication that racial problems should not be considered racial problems.
- wyattpeak 11y ago
  I agree it carries that implication, and I think it's right. Very little is added to the discussion of curbing gang crime by bringing race into the picture. What are the specifically Black solutions to gang behaviour? What are the Hispanic ones? On the other hand, the culture of racism and intolerance such discussions engender has real and measurable downsides. Cf. every discussion of police interactions by minorities.
  - randyrand 11y ago
    I completely disagree. The culture of black Americans is unique. It's different than the culture of Asians, Hispanics, Whites, ect, and initiatives will effect each culture differently. That much seems certain to me. To say that there is a one size fits all solution to gang violence is to ignore important cultural differences. To just look at family structure: 75% of black families are not married and 60% of mothers with multiple children have them to different fathers. As for how we tackle gangs, I'd need to study to problem longer. But its a hunch of mine that the above family statistics play a role in their formation.
cb18 11y ago
Apropos of people see the world in different ways, you aren't the arbiter of what is relevant for everybody else. You're feelings have no bearing on the range of legal actions available to other people. regardless of whether or not the facts are true. What kind of state of mind are you in bro? whether or not the facts are true. ? What do you think the definition of 'fact' is?

randyrand 11y ago

> is there meaningful information lost here? IMO, its not so much the loss of information, its the implication that racial problems should not be considered racial problems.

wyattpeak 11y ago
I agree it carries that implication, and I think it's right. Very little is added to the discussion of curbing gang crime by bringing race into the picture. What are the specifically Black solutions to gang behaviour? What are the Hispanic ones? On the other hand, the culture of racism and intolerance such discussions engender has real and measurable downsides. Cf. every discussion of police interactions by minorities.
- randyrand 11y ago
  I completely disagree. The culture of black Americans is unique. It's different than the culture of Asians, Hispanics, Whites, ect, and initiatives will effect each culture differently. That much seems certain to me. To say that there is a one size fits all solution to gang violence is to ignore important cultural differences. To just look at family structure: 75% of black families are not married and 60% of mothers with multiple children have them to different fathers. As for how we tackle gangs, I'd need to study to problem longer. But its a hunch of mine that the above family statistics play a role in their formation.

cb18 11y ago

Apropos of people see the world in different ways, you aren't the arbiter of what is relevant for everybody else. You're feelings have no bearing on the range of legal actions available to other people. regardless of whether or not the facts are true. What kind of state of mind are you in bro? whether or not the facts are true. ? What do you think the definition of 'fact' is?