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That's what, gone are the days when we'd spend hours and hours to learn the little little ways of vi and the myriad functions in emacs. Now we need to get thing

That's what, gone are the days when we'd spend hours and hours to learn the little little ways of vi and the myriad functions in emacs. Now we need to get things done, can't afford to sit down and study the entire functions of vi and emacs. I don't mean to troll but after switching to vscode and the go plugin I learned go webdev and wrote this small intro book, http://github.com/thewhitetulip/web-dev-golang-anti-textbook/ http://github.com/thewhitetulip/web-dev-golang-anti-textbook... That is the power of vscode, it provided a good enough way to play with code, yes not outright innovation, but an awesome text editor nonetheless.

Mikeb85 11y ago
Atom has a great Go plugin: linting, context aware completion, fixes code style on save, etc..., all powered by Go's command line tools. I'm not saying Vim and Emacs are the be-all (I program mostly in R, so RStudio is my main tool), only that VS Code hasn't changed anything fundamentally. It's just a good editor.
- jagger27 11y ago
  Sublime Text has GoSublime as well.
eropple 11y ago
What, exactly and without sweeping generalities, does it do that is a transformative step over Sublime Text or Atom? Or, hell, even Kate?
- jhasse 11y ago
  For example the Git integration is awesome and even better than Atom's (you can commit, push, ...). Of course you can do a lot with extensions, but at least in Atom's case they break a lot for me.
  - eropple 11y ago
    Well, okay, let's talk about that. Is having source control in your text editor enough of a benefit to one's daily routine as to be a step change of productivity or quality of life? It may be for you and I'm not saying you're wrong for that, I'm asking because it isn't for me; I have an alt and a tab key. Bear in mind that the claim wasn't that it's better in some ways, but that it's sweepingly better than the stuff that came before (and Atom wasn't even mentioned by the OP, which is funny--I mean, I don't use it, but it's obviously in the conversation).
    - jhasse 11y ago
      Having the git diff in your editor gives you syntax highlighting and let's you edit it (the right side) like you're used to. I guess the killer feature of VS Code is multiple cursors (Ctrl+D). I only know of Sublime Text and Atom who also have this feature on Linux, not sure about Kate. Sublime Text is closed source and not gratis, Atom is slow and buggy.
      - Skinney 11y ago
        Emacs and Vim also have multiple cursors.
        jhasse 11y ago
        Built-in? What is the equivalent of Ctrl+D (Sublime Text, Atom and VS Code) in vim and emacs?
      - Skinney 11y ago
        Not allowed to reply to your post, so replying here. No, not built-in. They both have plugins, and allow you to set the key shortcut to whatever you please. That they are not built-in really doesn't matter though. All these editors revolve around plugins, and it's common practice to save your preferences on github or the like so that it's easy to use the same settings and plugins on every machine.
- thewhitetulip 11y ago
  1. atom is slow and clunky it hangs when I paste a 10000 line sql insert statements 2. sublime text: sorry didn't try vscode's benifits: blazingly fast modern design works on linux/mac too little features like ctrl+P which lets you to jump to functions rather than play with files, I didn't know any other editor which allowed this feature to be there. It is a great way to code if you don't want or can't use vi/emacs, I don't have the luxury to learn all the nook and corners of emacs, I started using Go plugin in vscode and today I have built go apps and written partially completed book: http://github.com/thewhitetulip/web-dev-golang-anti-textbook/ http://github.com/thewhitetulip/web-dev-golang-anti-textbook... i tried giving vi a chance, but nope. couldn't bear it for more than a day, large webapps require a UI IDE, vscode > everything else I tried till now
  - thedz 11y ago
    > blazingly fast modern design works on linux/mac too little features like ctrl+P which lets you to jump to functions rather than play with files, I didn't know any other editor which allowed this feature to be there. Literally every other popular code editor supports some form of "go to symbol".
    - thewhitetulip 11y ago
      "Some other go to symbol" It is obvious I didn't use intellij and pycharm and stuff like that, but the ones I did use, kate, gedit, eclipse, notepad++ didn't let me drop into a function "With ease" yeah you can use that feature in eclipse, but it isn't with ease, maybe it is because I am so biased for vscode. We'll never know, but the thing is I feel productive typing into vscode than I ever had with some other editor I tried. Go ahead and downvote it, but after all every programmer worth his/her salt does realize that the choice of IDE/text editor is ultimately a personal opinion, so long as you as a person are comfortable using it, that is good for you, it does not make a tad bit of difference to anyone else in the world.
      - eropple 11y ago
        I downvoted you for your brutal incuriosity, not for your opinion.

Mikeb85 11y ago

Atom has a great Go plugin: linting, context aware completion, fixes code style on save, etc..., all powered by Go's command line tools. I'm not saying Vim and Emacs are the be-all (I program mostly in R, so RStudio is my main tool), only that VS Code hasn't changed anything fundamentally. It's just a good editor.

jagger27 11y ago
Sublime Text has GoSublime as well.

eropple 11y ago

What, exactly and without sweeping generalities, does it do that is a transformative step over Sublime Text or Atom? Or, hell, even Kate?

jhasse 11y ago
For example the Git integration is awesome and even better than Atom's (you can commit, push, ...). Of course you can do a lot with extensions, but at least in Atom's case they break a lot for me.
- eropple 11y ago
  Well, okay, let's talk about that. Is having source control in your text editor enough of a benefit to one's daily routine as to be a step change of productivity or quality of life? It may be for you and I'm not saying you're wrong for that, I'm asking because it isn't for me; I have an alt and a tab key. Bear in mind that the claim wasn't that it's better in some ways, but that it's sweepingly better than the stuff that came before (and Atom wasn't even mentioned by the OP, which is funny--I mean, I don't use it, but it's obviously in the conversation).
  - jhasse 11y ago
    Having the git diff in your editor gives you syntax highlighting and let's you edit it (the right side) like you're used to. I guess the killer feature of VS Code is multiple cursors (Ctrl+D). I only know of Sublime Text and Atom who also have this feature on Linux, not sure about Kate. Sublime Text is closed source and not gratis, Atom is slow and buggy.
    - Skinney 11y ago
      Emacs and Vim also have multiple cursors.
      - jhasse 11y ago
        Built-in? What is the equivalent of Ctrl+D (Sublime Text, Atom and VS Code) in vim and emacs?
    - Skinney 11y ago
      Not allowed to reply to your post, so replying here. No, not built-in. They both have plugins, and allow you to set the key shortcut to whatever you please. That they are not built-in really doesn't matter though. All these editors revolve around plugins, and it's common practice to save your preferences on github or the like so that it's easy to use the same settings and plugins on every machine.
thewhitetulip 11y ago
1. atom is slow and clunky it hangs when I paste a 10000 line sql insert statements 2. sublime text: sorry didn't try vscode's benifits: blazingly fast modern design works on linux/mac too little features like ctrl+P which lets you to jump to functions rather than play with files, I didn't know any other editor which allowed this feature to be there. It is a great way to code if you don't want or can't use vi/emacs, I don't have the luxury to learn all the nook and corners of emacs, I started using Go plugin in vscode and today I have built go apps and written partially completed book: http://github.com/thewhitetulip/web-dev-golang-anti-textbook/ http://github.com/thewhitetulip/web-dev-golang-anti-textbook... i tried giving vi a chance, but nope. couldn't bear it for more than a day, large webapps require a UI IDE, vscode > everything else I tried till now
- thedz 11y ago
  > blazingly fast modern design works on linux/mac too little features like ctrl+P which lets you to jump to functions rather than play with files, I didn't know any other editor which allowed this feature to be there. Literally every other popular code editor supports some form of "go to symbol".
  - thewhitetulip 11y ago
    "Some other go to symbol" It is obvious I didn't use intellij and pycharm and stuff like that, but the ones I did use, kate, gedit, eclipse, notepad++ didn't let me drop into a function "With ease" yeah you can use that feature in eclipse, but it isn't with ease, maybe it is because I am so biased for vscode. We'll never know, but the thing is I feel productive typing into vscode than I ever had with some other editor I tried. Go ahead and downvote it, but after all every programmer worth his/her salt does realize that the choice of IDE/text editor is ultimately a personal opinion, so long as you as a person are comfortable using it, that is good for you, it does not make a tad bit of difference to anyone else in the world.
    - eropple 11y ago
      I downvoted you for your brutal incuriosity, not for your opinion.