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Atom was around before VSCode and they feel roughly equivalent to me, no? They're both web browser based even... I'm a heavy IDE and Emacs guy though, so perha

Atom was around before VSCode and they feel roughly equivalent to me, no? They're both web browser based even... I'm a heavy IDE and Emacs guy though, so perhaps I'm missing something.

mjt0229 11y ago
Agreed. I don't see anything in VSCode that's not present in any of the vast array of alternatives. But then again, I live in IntelliJ and Emacs land. I don't mind Atom but don't really use it for anything. Light Table might deserve the term "transformative", but I didn't find it usable enough to rely on.
mrnd 11y ago
I've been using both Atom and VSCode over the past few months and gradually got to the point where I just prefer VSCode. It's hard to pinpoint a specific reason, but it feels faster and a little more polished.
devy 11y ago
> Atom was around before VSCode Nope. Visual Studio Code was created before Atom.[1] Although both VS Code and Atom are based on Electron[1] and are both Chrome-based. VS Code does seem to be stealing Atom's thunder as what they say [1] [1] https://discuss.atom.io/t/atom-seems-to-be-lossing-contributions-and-users-due-to-third-party-electron-based-ides/24901 https://discuss.atom.io/t/atom-seems-to-be-lossing-contribut...
- abritishguy 11y ago
  Electron (formerly called Atom-shell) was created for Atom. The source you cited even says this!
  - devy 11y ago
    Read this particular comment in that link. https://discuss.atom.io/t/atom-seems-to-be-lossing-contributions-and-users-due-to-third-party-electron-based-ides/24901/3 https://discuss.atom.io/t/atom-seems-to-be-lossing-contribut...
- ultramancool 11y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_%28text_editor%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_%28text_editor%29 Atom = 2014 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Studio_Code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Studio_Code VSCode = 2015 Am I missing something? Sure, MS had some preview online IDE thing before VSCode came out, but that's not the same thing obviously.
  - devy 11y ago
    Yes you are. Please read the original blog post. [1][2] Visual Studio code was originated from "Monaco" team, dated back in 2013. Eletron (formally Atom-shell) was dated in Feb-March 2014.[3] [1] http://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2016/04/14/vscode-1.0 http://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2016/04/14/vscode-1.0 [2] http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/microsofts-new-code-editor-is-built-on-googles-chromium/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/micros... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_(software_framework) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_(software_framework)
    - ultramancool 11y ago
      Yeah, but point is, it wasn't released until 2015. Which is the part that matters. Who cares if they started developing something tangentially related to it 2 years earlier. Atom came out to the public first, and that's what matters in terms of plugins and such. I never heard anything about people making Monaco plugins, did you? VSCode was basically released because Electron came out. From the Atom devs. So while Monaco may have come first, VSCode certainly did not. And Monaco didn't offer the sort of things that VSCode and Atom focus on - namely community plugins.
    - serge2k 11y ago
      So VS Code is based on Electron, but Electron came out the year after it? That makes sense. I use things from the future all the time. /s

Atom was around before VSCode and they feel roughly equivalent to me, no? They're both web browser based even... I'm a heavy IDE and Emacs guy though, so perhaps I'm missing something.

mjt0229 11y ago

Agreed. I don't see anything in VSCode that's not present in any of the vast array of alternatives. But then again, I live in IntelliJ and Emacs land. I don't mind Atom but don't really use it for anything. Light Table might deserve the term "transformative", but I didn't find it usable enough to rely on.

mrnd 11y ago

I've been using both Atom and VSCode over the past few months and gradually got to the point where I just prefer VSCode. It's hard to pinpoint a specific reason, but it feels faster and a little more polished.

devy 11y ago

> Atom was around before VSCode Nope. Visual Studio Code was created before Atom.[1] Although both VS Code and Atom are based on Electron[1] and are both Chrome-based. VS Code does seem to be stealing Atom's thunder as what they say [1] [1] https://discuss.atom.io/t/atom-seems-to-be-lossing-contributions-and-users-due-to-third-party-electron-based-ides/24901 https://discuss.atom.io/t/atom-seems-to-be-lossing-contribut...

abritishguy 11y ago
Electron (formerly called Atom-shell) was created for Atom. The source you cited even says this!
- devy 11y ago
  Read this particular comment in that link. https://discuss.atom.io/t/atom-seems-to-be-lossing-contributions-and-users-due-to-third-party-electron-based-ides/24901/3 https://discuss.atom.io/t/atom-seems-to-be-lossing-contribut...
ultramancool 11y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_%28text_editor%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_%28text_editor%29 Atom = 2014 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Studio_Code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Studio_Code VSCode = 2015 Am I missing something? Sure, MS had some preview online IDE thing before VSCode came out, but that's not the same thing obviously.
- devy 11y ago
  Yes you are. Please read the original blog post. [1][2] Visual Studio code was originated from "Monaco" team, dated back in 2013. Eletron (formally Atom-shell) was dated in Feb-March 2014.[3] [1] http://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2016/04/14/vscode-1.0 http://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2016/04/14/vscode-1.0 [2] http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/microsofts-new-code-editor-is-built-on-googles-chromium/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/micros... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_(software_framework) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_(software_framework)
  - ultramancool 11y ago
    Yeah, but point is, it wasn't released until 2015. Which is the part that matters. Who cares if they started developing something tangentially related to it 2 years earlier. Atom came out to the public first, and that's what matters in terms of plugins and such. I never heard anything about people making Monaco plugins, did you? VSCode was basically released because Electron came out. From the Atom devs. So while Monaco may have come first, VSCode certainly did not. And Monaco didn't offer the sort of things that VSCode and Atom focus on - namely community plugins.
  - serge2k 11y ago
    So VS Code is based on Electron, but Electron came out the year after it? That makes sense. I use things from the future all the time. /s