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I have an Xbox One and it's a mess. The UI is strange, it has a tendency to do strange things (e.g. This week it's decided that selecting apps won't work anymo

I have an Xbox One and it's a mess. The UI is strange, it has a tendency to do strange things (e.g. This week it's decided that selecting apps won't work anymore despite hitting A) if powered on too long, there are games that freeze, searching the store for games returns irrelevant results, the games are huge and with a local install required me to buy an external drive just to keep a collection of games available for play and the standby power option gave me so many issues I had to disable it so now I deal with crazy long boot times. That said I hate the PlayStation remote, it's basically designed for super small hands and I have very large hands, so I'm not switching. I'm also fond of Halo. Seems like the best thing Microsoft could do would be to deliver a remote gaming experience over the net. That way the console cost can be negligible and not require replacement as frequently. They could charge more for Xbox live because it's actually doing the compute and it'd be available on the go even from cell phones. That'd move lots of young people to the windows phone ecosystem. Kind of how music moved folks to Apple back in the day. Unfortunately that won't happen. Microsoft is too focused on corporate clients to move the needle in the consumer market.

mikestew 11y ago
Microsoft is too focused on corporate clients to move the needle in the consumer market. Yuppers, you could see this coming late in the 360 product cycle. After booting the Xbone for the first time, it was if it were an official announcement: "Microsoft now looks to advertising and other 'monetization' for profit. You, previously referred to as 'customer', are no longer a factor in such measurements as 'customer satisfaction'. We still measure it, we just don't survey users anymore to get that number". Other than the obnoxious UI, there's no single thing that makes me hate Xbone; it's death by a thousand cuts. If you asked me, "why won't you be buying the next generation Xbox?", I couldn't give you a single or even a half dozen deal breakers. It's more that every function of the box has one little, inconsequential thing that annoys me. Want to watch TV using the pass-through? You have to login first now, or spend minutes sifting through the menus. The OS now allows buggy games to bring the whole box down (never saw that happen on 360). You have to store games on a hard drive, but you still need the DVD to play it. Etc., etc. Just a thousand little things that should be better, but aren't, and it adds up to me just skipping the whole thing next time and getting a PS or Steambox.
- anonymfus 11y ago
  >You have to store games on a hard drive, but you still need the DVD to play it. That's that fans wanted and that PS4 also does. There was a huge backslash when MS announced original plans for Steam-like DRM. The culture of accepting DRM exists because piracy is hard, and piracy is hard because it's illegal and DRM is widespread. To break the vicious cycle more people should stop buying games and other content and start to help each other to pirate instead with a goal to bankrupt content producers to stop them from influencing laws and technology. Consoles exists because hardware manufacturers can make bigger profits when they also control software distribution with DRM. Don't buy consoles.
jerf 11y ago
"Seems like the best thing Microsoft could do would be to deliver a remote gaming experience over the net." So, I'm not saying this is a bad idea, but in order for Microsoft to do that, they would have to agree to completely give up all hope for VR on the system they do that on. Cloud VR is simply out of the question; the minimum latency is still guaranteed motion sickness. I'm not sure they can psych themselves up for that, even if it's probably still a good idea. (I can't prove this but the sense I'm getting from the reports of people's VR experiences and people's console experiences is that the current-gen consoles should simply give up on doing VR. They don't have the power to do it at graphical quality levels that the current market will consider acceptable for very long. Again, let me emphasize, this is my sense; if you vigorously agree or disagree I'm interested in your thoughts!)
- xbmcuser 11y ago
  Well if the graphical quality levels are not up to par. The 4k version of ps4 makes sense they could sell it as for vr or something.
seanp2k2 11y ago
We've tried the whole remote gaming thing before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnLive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnLive Maybe it'll be more viable in ${year when cable monopolies are defeated across the US}

mikestew 11y ago

Microsoft is too focused on corporate clients to move the needle in the consumer market. Yuppers, you could see this coming late in the 360 product cycle. After booting the Xbone for the first time, it was if it were an official announcement: "Microsoft now looks to advertising and other 'monetization' for profit. You, previously referred to as 'customer', are no longer a factor in such measurements as 'customer satisfaction'. We still measure it, we just don't survey users anymore to get that number". Other than the obnoxious UI, there's no single thing that makes me hate Xbone; it's death by a thousand cuts. If you asked me, "why won't you be buying the next generation Xbox?", I couldn't give you a single or even a half dozen deal breakers. It's more that every function of the box has one little, inconsequential thing that annoys me. Want to watch TV using the pass-through? You have to login first now, or spend minutes sifting through the menus. The OS now allows buggy games to bring the whole box down (never saw that happen on 360). You have to store games on a hard drive, but you still need the DVD to play it. Etc., etc. Just a thousand little things that should be better, but aren't, and it adds up to me just skipping the whole thing next time and getting a PS or Steambox.

anonymfus 11y ago
>You have to store games on a hard drive, but you still need the DVD to play it. That's that fans wanted and that PS4 also does. There was a huge backslash when MS announced original plans for Steam-like DRM. The culture of accepting DRM exists because piracy is hard, and piracy is hard because it's illegal and DRM is widespread. To break the vicious cycle more people should stop buying games and other content and start to help each other to pirate instead with a goal to bankrupt content producers to stop them from influencing laws and technology. Consoles exists because hardware manufacturers can make bigger profits when they also control software distribution with DRM. Don't buy consoles.

jerf 11y ago

"Seems like the best thing Microsoft could do would be to deliver a remote gaming experience over the net." So, I'm not saying this is a bad idea, but in order for Microsoft to do that, they would have to agree to completely give up all hope for VR on the system they do that on. Cloud VR is simply out of the question; the minimum latency is still guaranteed motion sickness. I'm not sure they can psych themselves up for that, even if it's probably still a good idea. (I can't prove this but the sense I'm getting from the reports of people's VR experiences and people's console experiences is that the current-gen consoles should simply give up on doing VR. They don't have the power to do it at graphical quality levels that the current market will consider acceptable for very long. Again, let me emphasize, this is my sense; if you vigorously agree or disagree I'm interested in your thoughts!)

xbmcuser 11y ago
Well if the graphical quality levels are not up to par. The 4k version of ps4 makes sense they could sell it as for vr or something.

seanp2k2 11y ago

We've tried the whole remote gaming thing before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnLive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnLive Maybe it'll be more viable in ${year when cable monopolies are defeated across the US}