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Agreed. Does anyone know which representatives support this bill? If it's just Feinstein and Burr, they can keep dreaming, but I imagine there are a few more.

coldpie 11y ago
It's really disheartening to read or hear almost any discussion about this issue. They're chock-full of broken analogies to meatspace that sound perfectly reasonable if you don't understand the nuances. The instant access, wide platform, and cheap copying that the Internet provides is unlike anything our species has dealt with before, and if you're not really informed on these issues, it's easy to lead yourself into what sounds like a reasonable position, but would actually destroy much of the modern economy. My point being, the anti-encryption side has the support of nearly everyone who isn't informed about encryption and computing, which is a whole lot of people.
- studentrob 11y ago
  > My point being, the anti-encryption side has the support of nearly everyone who isn't informed about encryption and computing, which is a whole lot of people. That just means there is more of a chance for technologists to take a leading role in this discussion through activism. It's an easy win if you can keep a cool head while explaining the issues.
  - coroutines 11y ago
    I hate that because we understand we have a responsibility. I just wanted to share cat pictures discretely with my friends. </lazy>
    - studentrob 11y ago
      Haha. It's an opportunity, not a responsibility. At some point in your life you may feel more inclined to contribute in that way. Or you may not. Both are fine =). Ultimately you shouldn't feel pressured by what other people ask of you. The choice of what to do and how to feel about it is always yours. When other people say it's your responsibility, like even if I had said that, that would just be me trying to convince you. That means nothing when you choose how to feel about it.

coldpie 11y ago

It's really disheartening to read or hear almost any discussion about this issue. They're chock-full of broken analogies to meatspace that sound perfectly reasonable if you don't understand the nuances. The instant access, wide platform, and cheap copying that the Internet provides is unlike anything our species has dealt with before, and if you're not really informed on these issues, it's easy to lead yourself into what sounds like a reasonable position, but would actually destroy much of the modern economy. My point being, the anti-encryption side has the support of nearly everyone who isn't informed about encryption and computing, which is a whole lot of people.

studentrob 11y ago
> My point being, the anti-encryption side has the support of nearly everyone who isn't informed about encryption and computing, which is a whole lot of people. That just means there is more of a chance for technologists to take a leading role in this discussion through activism. It's an easy win if you can keep a cool head while explaining the issues.
- coroutines 11y ago
  I hate that because we understand we have a responsibility. I just wanted to share cat pictures discretely with my friends. </lazy>
  - studentrob 11y ago
    Haha. It's an opportunity, not a responsibility. At some point in your life you may feel more inclined to contribute in that way. Or you may not. Both are fine =). Ultimately you shouldn't feel pressured by what other people ask of you. The choice of what to do and how to feel about it is always yours. When other people say it's your responsibility, like even if I had said that, that would just be me trying to convince you. That means nothing when you choose how to feel about it.