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>"Linux's power management on Skylake is dreadful and you shouldn't install it until it's fixed?" Because Linux is sometimes the only option. No other OS has t

• renaudg 11y ago
  What containerization options does Linux have running on bare metal, that a Linux VM running under OS X on a properly power-managed Macbook doesn't ?
  • vetinari 11y ago
    Properly power-manager Macbook on OSX has its own share of hardware/driver-related problems (like the unreliable wifi), so let's not slide into irrelevant arguing.
• techdragon 11y ago
  Ok so this is completely wrong. Both FreeBSD and the entire Family of OpenSolaris derivatives offer: - Superior "container" support to Linux (more secure, better tested, better designed, not a hacky bolted on thing like Cgroups.) - Their source code, they are Open Source Or did you actually just mean to say "Only Linux has Docker"?
  • Sanddancer 11y ago
    FreeBSD even has docker, portname sysutils/docker-freebsd
  • jessaustin 11y ago
    Are you saying that Skylake doesn't have these problems when running FreeBSD or OpenSolaris?
  • colejohnson66 11y ago
    > - Their source code, they are Open Source So does Linux?
  • tehbeard 11y ago
    1. Reference to this superior "container" technology? (geniunly interested to read about it). 2. Source access to the OS don't mean squat unless you're you can grok OS code. Also how is BSD open source different to Linux's?
    • majewsky 11y ago
      Re 1. I think he's referring to "FreeBSD jails".
    • neerdowell 11y ago
      They're likely referring to Solaris Zones and FreeBSD Jails.
  • cyphar 11y ago
    Actually, SmartOS (Solaris) has some magic Docker fakery that makes containers run in LX-branded zones. I'm a maintainer of runC (the low-level executor of Docker) and I just merged some code the other day that is working on running runC natively on Solaris. I'm quite excited about that. As for FreeBSD, there was some work in Docker some time ago on getting Docker to work on FreeBSD. I don't think all of the code is there though.
• otterley 11y ago
  People who run Linux for serving production traffic generally disable power management, and for good reason. So it's a non-issue in that context.
  • vacri 11y ago
    If you're doing Docker 'properly', your developers will be using it on their machines, so there is ample context for containers on a laptop.
    • otterley 11y ago
      In most cases they're running Docker in a VM on a Windows or Mac OS laptop, so the host's power management will be used.
      • nitrogen 11y ago
        Most of my coworkers do this, but their VMs are insanely slow and my native Linux is fast, so I can work more productively by running Linux.
• talideon 11y ago
  FreeBSD has Jails and Solaris has Zones, you know, and have done since the early 2000s. You might want to watch some of Bryan Crantrill's talks on FreeBSD Jails, Solaris Zones, and his criticisms of Docker and Linux containers in general when compared to them.
  • snuxoll 11y ago
    I generally think while they aren't as isolated as Jails or Zones, LXC containers are 'fine' for isolation. My big beef is with Docker and the lack of any decent management tooling, whereas I can just treat a LXC container like any other 'real' system and use puppet as such. Still, Solaris Zones are freaking awesome, with them having a Linux personality now I really need to try to find some time to mess with SmartOS more.