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There are two, maybe three sides to Amazon. There is the main Amazon site that everyone is familiar with. You go to Amazon, buy the product from Amazon, pay Am

There are two, maybe three sides to Amazon. There is the main Amazon site that everyone is familiar with. You go to Amazon, buy the product from Amazon, pay Amazon, then receive a shipment from Amazon via carrier. Next is the Amazon seller side. This has two different sides to it. There is the traditional seller model that is akin to eBay's buy-it-now. You go to Amazon, buy from the seller, pay the seller (via Amazon), then receive the shipment from the seller via carrier. The side to the seller is fulfillment. Sellers have the option to use Amazon as a distributor. It's essentially a hybrid model of the two. You go to Amazon, buy from the seller, pay the seller (via Amazon), then receive the shipment from Amazon (that the seller sent to Amazon) via carrier[1]. My point is that Amazon doesn't exactly put their seal of approval above everything. Just most things. [1]: https://services.amazon.com/fulfillment-by-amazon/how-it-works.htm/ref=asus_fba_snav_how https://services.amazon.com/fulfillment-by-amazon/how-it-wor...

vertex-four 11y ago
The point is that buying a thing off Amazon's site that turns out to be something unexpected or a scam devalues Amazon's brand, whether it's vetted by Amazon or not. Amazon make a point of not separating their vetted stuff from their third-party sellers intentionally. If it gets to the point where it's difficult for me to find products of the quality that I want on Amazon, I'm not going to worry about whether it's Sold By Amazon or not - I'm going to find an alternative.
FussyZeus 11y ago
The seal of approval is implied though. They're carrying it in what is effectively their "store." If you bought something out of a Best Buy and it turned out to be full of malware, you'd go back to Best Buy (justifiably) pissed off, and in my mind Best Buy just throwing up their hands and saying "Well we carry a lot of products, we can't check everything" isn't a very good answer.
- giaour 11y ago
  Isn't that exactly what best buy said about the superfish-infested laptops they sold?
  - FussyZeus 11y ago
    True that, but we're not talking an installed SSL cert buried in the system, this guy found it by opening the page and clicking view source. Not exactly well hidden.
    - giaour 11y ago
      Yeah, all you have to do is order a camera from a third party seller, open the box, power everything on, visit the admin page, view the source, and then Google the domain name used in what looks like an ad tracker at the bottom of the page.

vertex-four 11y ago

The point is that buying a thing off Amazon's site that turns out to be something unexpected or a scam devalues Amazon's brand, whether it's vetted by Amazon or not. Amazon make a point of not separating their vetted stuff from their third-party sellers intentionally. If it gets to the point where it's difficult for me to find products of the quality that I want on Amazon, I'm not going to worry about whether it's Sold By Amazon or not - I'm going to find an alternative.

FussyZeus 11y ago

The seal of approval is implied though. They're carrying it in what is effectively their "store." If you bought something out of a Best Buy and it turned out to be full of malware, you'd go back to Best Buy (justifiably) pissed off, and in my mind Best Buy just throwing up their hands and saying "Well we carry a lot of products, we can't check everything" isn't a very good answer.

giaour 11y ago
Isn't that exactly what best buy said about the superfish-infested laptops they sold?
- FussyZeus 11y ago
  True that, but we're not talking an installed SSL cert buried in the system, this guy found it by opening the page and clicking view source. Not exactly well hidden.
  - giaour 11y ago
    Yeah, all you have to do is order a camera from a third party seller, open the box, power everything on, visit the admin page, view the source, and then Google the domain name used in what looks like an ad tracker at the bottom of the page.