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Yeah, my experience with 14.04 has been seriously sub-par, 12.04 was much better. Seems Ubuntu and desktop Linux is seriously regressing, with the newer kernel

by Mikeb85 11y ago

Yeah, my experience with 14.04 has been seriously sub-par, 12.04 was much better. Seems Ubuntu and desktop Linux is seriously regressing, with the newer kernels my laptop won't suspend any more (Thinkpad T530 w/ Ivy Bridge and Intel graphics), after 4+ years of flawless usage. Seriously, nothing went wrong for years and now there's some horrible regression that has fucked up the whole experience and I can't suspend my laptop. WTF (and I have checked mailing lists, it is an upstream bug of some sort though some blame the kernel, others blame systemd).

nickspacek 11y ago
Anecdotal, but suspend has always been a huge frustration for me (T510). Between trying different video drivers and kernels and having them bork the machine I decided to see if any modern release of a distro would just work out of the box (hardware acceleration or no, whatever the OOTB Live experience gave). My procedure was to boot the Live version, then standby and wake multiple times and see which would reliably work. I had been on Ubuntu for a while but it didn't work, neither did (maybe unsurprisingly) Mint, but Fedora just worked. I've stuck with Fedora for a while and have gone for good stretches where standby + resume would work for weeks... and then fail inexplicably. But with Fedora it's the best it has been in the 6 years I've had this machine.
teekert 11y ago
Could it be the constant back-porting of patches that leads to problems? And in fact you are using and old, patched kernel? Perhaps a truly new kernel would surprise you.
- Mikeb85 11y ago
  Maybe. But according to others, it's an upstream bug that still exists in the new(est) kernels. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1504584 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1504584
erik14th 11y ago
My experience is the opposite, 12.04 used to crash(X) on me quite often. I did have some problems with 14.04 that would send a regular user go back to windows, but nothing I couldn't solve in a few minutes. I tried to use arch, but I ended up fiddling with dwm and other stuff instead of working on what I should and I don't really like any of the linux DE's other than unity. So I don't really see any good alternatives for a distro to use with as little hassle/configuration as possible.

by Mikeb85 11y ago

nickspacek 11y ago

Anecdotal, but suspend has always been a huge frustration for me (T510). Between trying different video drivers and kernels and having them bork the machine I decided to see if any modern release of a distro would just work out of the box (hardware acceleration or no, whatever the OOTB Live experience gave). My procedure was to boot the Live version, then standby and wake multiple times and see which would reliably work. I had been on Ubuntu for a while but it didn't work, neither did (maybe unsurprisingly) Mint, but Fedora just worked. I've stuck with Fedora for a while and have gone for good stretches where standby + resume would work for weeks... and then fail inexplicably. But with Fedora it's the best it has been in the 6 years I've had this machine.

teekert 11y ago

Could it be the constant back-porting of patches that leads to problems? And in fact you are using and old, patched kernel? Perhaps a truly new kernel would surprise you.

Mikeb85 11y ago
Maybe. But according to others, it's an upstream bug that still exists in the new(est) kernels. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1504584 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1504584

erik14th 11y ago

My experience is the opposite, 12.04 used to crash(X) on me quite often. I did have some problems with 14.04 that would send a regular user go back to windows, but nothing I couldn't solve in a few minutes. I tried to use arch, but I ended up fiddling with dwm and other stuff instead of working on what I should and I don't really like any of the linux DE's other than unity. So I don't really see any good alternatives for a distro to use with as little hassle/configuration as possible.