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Any suggestions for a format that is sane?

by pm 10y ago

mintplant 10y ago
TOML. https://github.com/toml-lang/toml https://github.com/toml-lang/toml
- nikolay 10y ago
  [[ something ]]? No, thank you! Jsonnet [0], yes, please! [0]: http://jsonnet.org/ http://jsonnet.org/
  - placeybordeaux 10y ago
    Why?
    - nikolay 10y ago
      It's just weird syntax in my view.
- brandonbloom 10y ago
  I (original commenter) second TOML. It is very simple, is instantly familiar to anyone who has used ini files or many Unix-style config files, and has many good implementations available. The [[array]] notation mentioned below is a tad weird, but I've never had an occasion to use it.
ddispaltro 10y ago
My personal favorite is HOCON from Typesafe, https://github.com/typesafehub/config#examples-of-hocon https://github.com/typesafehub/config#examples-of-hocon
cookrn 10y ago
Hashicorp has created HCL https://github.com/hashicorp/hcl https://github.com/hashicorp/hcl
- nikolay 10y ago
  Which is based on UCL [0]. [0]: https://github.com/vstakhov/libucl https://github.com/vstakhov/libucl
pjmlp 10y ago
I am going to be downvoted, but for me XML is sane and I don't bother to use anything else when given the option.
- nikolay 10y ago
  No, you're got upvoted by me. XML is great and has all kinds of well-tested tools - query language, schema validation, namespaces, etc.! Not sure why people think it's worse than JSON, TOML or the likes. Less readable? Not really. Plus, more people know HTML than JSON and so it should be less easy to learn than even JSON for people who already know HTML. Maybe the only improvement would be to make it more relaxed like HTML5.
benley 10y ago
Jsonnet is a really excellent one, imo: http://jsonnet.org/ http://jsonnet.org/ There is also Flabbergast, which is comparable but a little less intuitive for those accustomed to Python-like languages: http://flabbergast.org/ http://flabbergast.org/ The flabbergast homepage has a comparison table that covers most of the things mentioned in this thread: http://flabbergast.org/#comparison http://flabbergast.org/#comparison
benley 10y ago
This paper also pretty interesting: http://www.masella.name/~andre/2015-srecon-andre_masella.pdf http://www.masella.name/~andre/2015-srecon-andre_masella.pdf

Any suggestions for a format that is sane?

by pm 10y ago

Any suggestions for a format that is sane?

mintplant 10y ago

TOML. https://github.com/toml-lang/toml https://github.com/toml-lang/toml

nikolay 10y ago
[[ something ]]? No, thank you! Jsonnet [0], yes, please! [0]: http://jsonnet.org/ http://jsonnet.org/
- placeybordeaux 10y ago
  Why?
  - nikolay 10y ago
    It's just weird syntax in my view.
brandonbloom 10y ago
I (original commenter) second TOML. It is very simple, is instantly familiar to anyone who has used ini files or many Unix-style config files, and has many good implementations available. The [[array]] notation mentioned below is a tad weird, but I've never had an occasion to use it.

ddispaltro 10y ago

My personal favorite is HOCON from Typesafe, https://github.com/typesafehub/config#examples-of-hocon https://github.com/typesafehub/config#examples-of-hocon

cookrn 10y ago

Hashicorp has created HCL https://github.com/hashicorp/hcl https://github.com/hashicorp/hcl

nikolay 10y ago
Which is based on UCL [0]. [0]: https://github.com/vstakhov/libucl https://github.com/vstakhov/libucl

pjmlp 10y ago

I am going to be downvoted, but for me XML is sane and I don't bother to use anything else when given the option.

nikolay 10y ago
No, you're got upvoted by me. XML is great and has all kinds of well-tested tools - query language, schema validation, namespaces, etc.! Not sure why people think it's worse than JSON, TOML or the likes. Less readable? Not really. Plus, more people know HTML than JSON and so it should be less easy to learn than even JSON for people who already know HTML. Maybe the only improvement would be to make it more relaxed like HTML5.

benley 10y ago

Jsonnet is a really excellent one, imo: http://jsonnet.org/ http://jsonnet.org/ There is also Flabbergast, which is comparable but a little less intuitive for those accustomed to Python-like languages: http://flabbergast.org/ http://flabbergast.org/ The flabbergast homepage has a comparison table that covers most of the things mentioned in this thread: http://flabbergast.org/#comparison http://flabbergast.org/#comparison

benley 10y ago

This paper also pretty interesting: http://www.masella.name/~andre/2015-srecon-andre_masella.pdf http://www.masella.name/~andre/2015-srecon-andre_masella.pdf