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I'm only a quarter of the way into the book, and it's really pretty funny, but also insufferably harsh and cynical and misanthropic and holier-than-thou and sel
by 55555 11y ago
I'm only a quarter of the way into the book, and it's really pretty funny, but also insufferably harsh and cynical and misanthropic and holier-than-thou and self-righteous and downright mean. Oh, and I guess I should apologize to Dan for being 25 and therefore knowing nothing at all and being useless. In my opinion as a business owner, the world doesnt owe you a job and if you immediately think you hate the place maybe you should quit. I understand that he had twins though (and thus was doing the wrong thing for the right reasons).
I guess I'm not used to reading something so mean-spirited.
Disclaimer: I don't work at HubSpot and they do indeed sound like a stock-pumping cult that has a large boiler room selling average software.
- fleitz 11y agoEvery sausage factory needs a salesman. People who don't like the way the sausage is made, especially don't like the way sausage is sold.
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- DKnoll 11y agoI'm about halfway through. So far I find the book to be an amusing send up of startup culture. A bit like an updated version of Coupland's Microserfs with slightly more factual basis. Although, I am confused by his condemnation of HubSpot and his former colleagues for age discrimination when he regularly questions his colleagues for their own (lesser) age. Especially since many of his younger colleagues obviously had more industry experience since this was his first time working for and not writing about a tech company.
- galtwho 11y agoDan has written on Linkedin a summary of his experience as well. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/when-comes-age-bias-tech-companies-dont-even-bother-lie-dan-lyons https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/when-comes-age-bias-tech-comp...
- DKnoll 11y agoBasically the same arguments as the book... just condensed. Slightly more bitter if anything. Comparing ageism to sexism or racism, as he constantly does, is a complete cop-out. He was 23 once... as I am now, and I'm in a worse economy. Everyone ages... it's a shared experience; we all do one day. I should add, if he was such a toxic employee from day 1, as his own commentary suggests, he was lucky to make it two years.
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- shilman 11y agoMean-spirited indeed. Given Lyons' long history of sometimes spiteful satire it's hard to imagine this ending any other way. Like the scorpion and the frog. Perhaps Hubspot should have known better than to hire him in the first place!