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I know it's trite to say, but it is probably good to be reminded how often people held up as being successful are, often, deeply unhappy. Michael Jordan is ano

I know it's trite to say, but it is probably good to be reminded how often people held up as being successful are, often, deeply unhappy. Michael Jordan is another canonical example. To live these lives of unparalleled, almost supernatural greatness, and then end up embittered... The stoics did nothing wrong. EDIT: to clarify, I'm not dismissing Miller's critique at all, I'm noting that someone living, literally, a rock star life, ends up in a deeply inhumane and, potentially, embittering environment.

joslin01 11y ago
How does this apply to the music industry sucking? I didn't take this as Steve Miller being an unhappy person though you are right, many successful people do end up the road down to depression -- Elvis being another great example.
- TheOtherHobbes 11y ago
  I doubt he's an unhappy person - he's unhappy with the power structure of the industry he works in. Not least he's unhappy because R&RHOF tried to charge him $10k per member to include his band in the ceremony. It shouldn't be hard to understand the difference.
draw_down 11y ago
That's a shitty, smarmy dismissal of what he's trying to say and that he had the stones to say it. Forget about him, what about all the artists the industry has exploited who didn't end up famous and successful? The stoics would have thought the music industry is terrible. Because it is.
- carsongross 11y ago
  I am not dismissing him at all. I agree entirely that he is very brave for having said this. I'm simply noting that even a famous rock star, living a literally rock star life, ends up in a horrible environment.
alanwatts 11y ago
>The wise man knows that it is better to sit on the banks of a remote mountain stream than to be emperor of the whole world. -Zhuangzi
- gdulli 11y ago
  "The best life is the one the gods don't notice." - Steven Erikson, "Gardens of the Moon"
gdulli 11y ago
I agree completely. While an adult should be able to choose that life, I consider it practically child abuse for a parent to put their child into the entertainment industry.

joslin01 11y ago

How does this apply to the music industry sucking? I didn't take this as Steve Miller being an unhappy person though you are right, many successful people do end up the road down to depression -- Elvis being another great example.

TheOtherHobbes 11y ago
I doubt he's an unhappy person - he's unhappy with the power structure of the industry he works in. Not least he's unhappy because R&RHOF tried to charge him $10k per member to include his band in the ceremony. It shouldn't be hard to understand the difference.

draw_down 11y ago

That's a shitty, smarmy dismissal of what he's trying to say and that he had the stones to say it. Forget about him, what about all the artists the industry has exploited who didn't end up famous and successful? The stoics would have thought the music industry is terrible. Because it is.

carsongross 11y ago
I am not dismissing him at all. I agree entirely that he is very brave for having said this. I'm simply noting that even a famous rock star, living a literally rock star life, ends up in a horrible environment.

alanwatts 11y ago

>The wise man knows that it is better to sit on the banks of a remote mountain stream than to be emperor of the whole world. -Zhuangzi

gdulli 11y ago
"The best life is the one the gods don't notice." - Steven Erikson, "Gardens of the Moon"

gdulli 11y ago

I agree completely. While an adult should be able to choose that life, I consider it practically child abuse for a parent to put their child into the entertainment industry.