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Assuming this is a positive development, I wonder where else xHamster is also blocking access - what about large parts of the Middle East and Africa?

by lbaskin 10y ago

shas3 10y ago
Shouldn't we all hold US to higher standards than MENA, etc.?
- dudul 10y ago
  Because...?
  - abiox 10y ago
    if nothing else, the US tends to have fewer existential concerns diverting it's attention (economics, infrastructure, etc).
    - dudul 10y ago
      Seriously? I'll give you Africa of course, it makes sense. But the Middle East? Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc? All these countries are almost literally wiping their ass with money. My question got downvoted a lot, but I was quite serious. Why would the US be upheld to "higher standards" (whatever it means)? Are we supposed to believe in some form of American exceptionalism? And are we just talking about Africa or should the US have higher standards than, say, India, Australia, Italy and Argentina? I just wanted to understand the parent comment.
      - abiox 10y ago
        > Why would the US be upheld to "higher standards" (whatever it means)? Are we supposed to believe in some form of American exceptionalism? here's an example: i think most people would agree that every country should have a strong, maintained infrastructure to support their country's operations. but it is clearly a different situation for an economically challenged country to have bridges in disrepair, than for a rich country to have the same issue despite it having the resources available to it. "higher standards" doesn't necessarily mean "superior". that said, i'm not completely clear on what the post you replied to was expressing. if i were to guess, it was about so-called "social progress". north america/europe generally provides a better opportunity for LGBT peoples to live their lives as they see fit than other regions. MENA (such as Saudi[1] and Qatar[2]) have traditionally been seen as decidedly unwelcoming to LGBT, perhaps even supporting violence against LGBT, but this isn't exactly unique to MENA. MENA's disinterest/lack of "progress" in this area is rooted in cultural, historical and religious norms. as such, it's perhaps "unfair" to hold them to the same standards (achieving "higher progress") of how they treat LGBT people. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Qatar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Qatar
dima_medvedev 10y ago
Not necessary, those are blocking it themselves.

Assuming this is a positive development, I wonder where else xHamster is also blocking access - what about large parts of the Middle East and Africa?

by lbaskin 10y ago

Assuming this is a positive development, I wonder where else xHamster is also blocking access - what about large parts of the Middle East and Africa?

shas3 10y ago

Shouldn't we all hold US to higher standards than MENA, etc.?

dudul 10y ago
Because...?
- abiox 10y ago
  if nothing else, the US tends to have fewer existential concerns diverting it's attention (economics, infrastructure, etc).
  - dudul 10y ago
    Seriously? I'll give you Africa of course, it makes sense. But the Middle East? Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc? All these countries are almost literally wiping their ass with money. My question got downvoted a lot, but I was quite serious. Why would the US be upheld to "higher standards" (whatever it means)? Are we supposed to believe in some form of American exceptionalism? And are we just talking about Africa or should the US have higher standards than, say, India, Australia, Italy and Argentina? I just wanted to understand the parent comment.
    - abiox 10y ago
      > Why would the US be upheld to "higher standards" (whatever it means)? Are we supposed to believe in some form of American exceptionalism? here's an example: i think most people would agree that every country should have a strong, maintained infrastructure to support their country's operations. but it is clearly a different situation for an economically challenged country to have bridges in disrepair, than for a rich country to have the same issue despite it having the resources available to it. "higher standards" doesn't necessarily mean "superior". that said, i'm not completely clear on what the post you replied to was expressing. if i were to guess, it was about so-called "social progress". north america/europe generally provides a better opportunity for LGBT peoples to live their lives as they see fit than other regions. MENA (such as Saudi[1] and Qatar[2]) have traditionally been seen as decidedly unwelcoming to LGBT, perhaps even supporting violence against LGBT, but this isn't exactly unique to MENA. MENA's disinterest/lack of "progress" in this area is rooted in cultural, historical and religious norms. as such, it's perhaps "unfair" to hold them to the same standards (achieving "higher progress") of how they treat LGBT people. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Qatar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Qatar

dima_medvedev 10y ago

Not necessary, those are blocking it themselves.