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You talk like developing on Linux means doing everything in the command line. *nix UX is nothing to be ashamed of, and I personally prefer it over Windows and O

by larrik 11y ago

You talk like developing on Linux means doing everything in the command line. *nix UX is nothing to be ashamed of, and I personally prefer it over Windows and OS X (especially OS X).

swsieber 11y ago
Personally, the reason I like OS X over a random linux distribution is the sane keyboard shortcut defaults - CMD+C and CMD+V just work everywhere, as well as things like CMD+W. Well, almost everywhere. And CTRL+F is still a little wonky depending on the app you're in.
- pessimizer 11y ago
  Where on Linux do Ctrl-c, v, and x not work? I haven't had a problem with them anywhere in a decade. I have largely stuck to Gnome2, MATE, and XFCE, though.
  - ninkendo 11y ago
    The problem with Ctrl C is that it is also the shortcut for SIGINT when the terminal is focused. Also most terminal emulators will forward all Ctrl combinations directly over the TTY rather than capturing them in the windowing system, so in practice Ctrl-V rarely works in a terminal either. Likewise for Ctrl-W, which is typically bound to backwards-kill-word, etc. The way it ends up in practice, shortcuts involving the Command key on OSX end up being clearly defined and consistent, because apps typically can't override them.
  - timlyo 11y ago
    As a die hard Linux fan, I'll admit that it'd be nice if ctrl+left/right worked the same everywhere. On most editors it moves me one word, on the command line it inserts the control characters. Same story for ctrl+backspace and ctrl+a.
  - j_h_s 11y ago
    You need ctrl+shift+c and ctrl+shift+v, etc. in a terminal.
  - deleted 11y ago
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  - hollerith 11y ago
    Ctrl-v doesn't work in lxterminal. ("Paste" is on the right-click menu though.)
- _lce0 11y ago
  For me it's the other way. In Linux there's a clear separation of CTRL for sending messages to the app --ALT for commands-- and SUPER for messaging the OS. I found OSX very confusing trying to mix everything into a single key.
  - swsieber 11y ago
    Oh, that's an insight I've never thought about. It never occurred to me that they had different purposes.
vhab 11y ago
From an IT and "just works" perspective, Linux was a no-go for us. It wasn't particularly about the UX on Linux desktops, but rather they don't fit in our company culture when it comes to how assets and IT are managed. Which is why I wrote it from my own perspective as an anecdote. As usual, YMMV

by larrik 11y ago

You talk like developing on Linux means doing everything in the command line. *nix UX is nothing to be ashamed of, and I personally prefer it over Windows and OS X (especially OS X).

swsieber 11y ago

Personally, the reason I like OS X over a random linux distribution is the sane keyboard shortcut defaults - CMD+C and CMD+V just work everywhere, as well as things like CMD+W. Well, almost everywhere. And CTRL+F is still a little wonky depending on the app you're in.

pessimizer 11y ago
Where on Linux do Ctrl-c, v, and x not work? I haven't had a problem with them anywhere in a decade. I have largely stuck to Gnome2, MATE, and XFCE, though.
- ninkendo 11y ago
  The problem with Ctrl C is that it is also the shortcut for SIGINT when the terminal is focused. Also most terminal emulators will forward all Ctrl combinations directly over the TTY rather than capturing them in the windowing system, so in practice Ctrl-V rarely works in a terminal either. Likewise for Ctrl-W, which is typically bound to backwards-kill-word, etc. The way it ends up in practice, shortcuts involving the Command key on OSX end up being clearly defined and consistent, because apps typically can't override them.
- timlyo 11y ago
  As a die hard Linux fan, I'll admit that it'd be nice if ctrl+left/right worked the same everywhere. On most editors it moves me one word, on the command line it inserts the control characters. Same story for ctrl+backspace and ctrl+a.
- j_h_s 11y ago
  You need ctrl+shift+c and ctrl+shift+v, etc. in a terminal.
- deleted 11y ago
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- hollerith 11y ago
  Ctrl-v doesn't work in lxterminal. ("Paste" is on the right-click menu though.)
_lce0 11y ago
For me it's the other way. In Linux there's a clear separation of CTRL for sending messages to the app --ALT for commands-- and SUPER for messaging the OS. I found OSX very confusing trying to mix everything into a single key.
- swsieber 11y ago
  Oh, that's an insight I've never thought about. It never occurred to me that they had different purposes.

vhab 11y ago

From an IT and "just works" perspective, Linux was a no-go for us. It wasn't particularly about the UX on Linux desktops, but rather they don't fit in our company culture when it comes to how assets and IT are managed. Which is why I wrote it from my own perspective as an anecdote. As usual, YMMV