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I always thought that Steve Jobs was a perfect example that even if you were rich, famous, important you can still die very young. I know in Denmark where ever

by chvid 11y ago

I always thought that Steve Jobs was a perfect example that even if you were rich, famous, important you can still die very young. I know in Denmark where everything health care is run by the public sector and there is a very egalitarian access; you also have the wealthy living considerable longer than the poor. I think lifestyle factors such as good social life, meaningful professional life matter a lot. Probably more than health care access.

nxzero 11y ago
Steve Jobs died regretting that he had spent so long attempting to treat his cancer with alternative medicine before agreeing to undergo surgery, according to his biographer Walter Isaacson; if he had received treatment as soon as he was aware of the cancer, it's possible he would still be alive today.
- rlanday 11y ago
  Possible but far from certain.
  - overcast 11y ago
    The version of pancreatic cancer he had was actually the one that was very curable. For all of his intelligence, he chose poorly, and paid for it with his life.
  - downandout 11y ago
    Actually, according to the the story that Isaacson and others familiar with the situation told, it's fairly certain that he would have made a full recovery. Of course it's possible that he would have died by now due to other causes - his plane could have crashed etc - but he would not have died as a result of cancer. In this case, his belief in alternative medicine killed him.
arethuza 11y ago
"meaningful professional life" One thing that I've noticed is that some men I've known (and it seems to be a male problem) don't handle the step change from a high flying career to retirement at all well. Seeing people who have worked hard to enjoy a very comfortable retirement drop dead within a year of retiring is pretty alarming! [NB They weren't in software]
- fapjacks 11y ago
  It is a sort of in-joke in my family. The men die soon after they retire. Needless-to-say, I have not considered retiring at the "normal" age.
GFischer 11y ago
Here in Uruguay we also have public sector health care - but rich people have access to private clinics as well. And, for example, a rich person can afford to go to the Cleveland Clinic in the U.S. (out of pocket) to get vastly better treatments that those available for the general population.
- chvid 11y ago
  Just to make it clear. For all practical purposes all health care in Denmark is public sector; making Denmark (and other Scandinavian countries) quite different than the rest of the world.
  - refurb 11y ago
    Canada is the same as well. The system is setup to discourage private sector care (although a very small amount exists). However, lots of wealthy Canadians just fly to the US to get the best care money can buy.

by chvid 11y ago

nxzero 11y ago

Steve Jobs died regretting that he had spent so long attempting to treat his cancer with alternative medicine before agreeing to undergo surgery, according to his biographer Walter Isaacson; if he had received treatment as soon as he was aware of the cancer, it's possible he would still be alive today.

rlanday 11y ago
Possible but far from certain.
- overcast 11y ago
  The version of pancreatic cancer he had was actually the one that was very curable. For all of his intelligence, he chose poorly, and paid for it with his life.
- downandout 11y ago
  Actually, according to the the story that Isaacson and others familiar with the situation told, it's fairly certain that he would have made a full recovery. Of course it's possible that he would have died by now due to other causes - his plane could have crashed etc - but he would not have died as a result of cancer. In this case, his belief in alternative medicine killed him.

arethuza 11y ago

"meaningful professional life" One thing that I've noticed is that some men I've known (and it seems to be a male problem) don't handle the step change from a high flying career to retirement at all well. Seeing people who have worked hard to enjoy a very comfortable retirement drop dead within a year of retiring is pretty alarming! [NB They weren't in software]

fapjacks 11y ago
It is a sort of in-joke in my family. The men die soon after they retire. Needless-to-say, I have not considered retiring at the "normal" age.

GFischer 11y ago

Here in Uruguay we also have public sector health care - but rich people have access to private clinics as well. And, for example, a rich person can afford to go to the Cleveland Clinic in the U.S. (out of pocket) to get vastly better treatments that those available for the general population.

chvid 11y ago
Just to make it clear. For all practical purposes all health care in Denmark is public sector; making Denmark (and other Scandinavian countries) quite different than the rest of the world.
- refurb 11y ago
  Canada is the same as well. The system is setup to discourage private sector care (although a very small amount exists). However, lots of wealthy Canadians just fly to the US to get the best care money can buy.