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Another issue is that some of these rich kids usually don't integrate and have no desire to do so. They just milk the system. I studied at UBC. You will be surp

Another issue is that some of these rich kids usually don't integrate and have no desire to do so. They just milk the system. I studied at UBC. You will be surprised how many students can't speak basic conversational English.

hvs 10y ago
This is exactly the sort of argument made against Italians, Irish, and numerous others that have come to the U.S. It's pretty gross.
- middleclick 10y ago
  Pointing out that some of these students - not only limited to Chinese - do not integrate is not the same as being racist. That's quite a hyperbole.
  - cm3 10y ago
    But do they have to learn the local language when they don't plan to stay there indefinitely?
- herewulf 10y ago
  Interestingly for the most part these European immigrants refused to teach their children born in the USA their native languages because they were that concerned with integration. I think it is sad that languages were not passed on but it seems that later waves of immigrants or even some groups as a whole (e.g.: Chinese, Latin Americans) are more concerned about preserving their native languages in their new country.
plg 10y ago
I went to school with kids from HK who arrived and didn't speak English very well. After a short time their English improved substantially, and after a couple of years, frankly, many of them could write essays with better grammar than many of the caucasian native English speakers in the class. Instead of criticizing immigrants for being different, how about we welcome them, support them, and make a better home for everyone. Part of the reason it appears that they don't want to "integrate" is because so many people around them are instantly hostile. Be welcoming and you will be surprised at what you will learn about the world (and about yourself).
- middleclick 10y ago
  I am the product of immigration as well so I am not sure how anything I said makes it seem like I was not welcoming. Pointing out that there are issues with integration is not the same thing as being a racist. Has our discourse come to a level that one can't even talk about these things?
  - kspaans 10y ago
    Pointing out that there are issues with integration is not the same thing as being a racist It's interesting to note that @plg didn't use the word "racist".
    - jmorphy88 10y ago
      No, but plg did refer to the locals as "caucasians" before calling them hostile and unwelcoming.

hvs 10y ago

This is exactly the sort of argument made against Italians, Irish, and numerous others that have come to the U.S. It's pretty gross.

middleclick 10y ago
Pointing out that some of these students - not only limited to Chinese - do not integrate is not the same as being racist. That's quite a hyperbole.
- cm3 10y ago
  But do they have to learn the local language when they don't plan to stay there indefinitely?
herewulf 10y ago
Interestingly for the most part these European immigrants refused to teach their children born in the USA their native languages because they were that concerned with integration. I think it is sad that languages were not passed on but it seems that later waves of immigrants or even some groups as a whole (e.g.: Chinese, Latin Americans) are more concerned about preserving their native languages in their new country.

plg 10y ago

I went to school with kids from HK who arrived and didn't speak English very well. After a short time their English improved substantially, and after a couple of years, frankly, many of them could write essays with better grammar than many of the caucasian native English speakers in the class. Instead of criticizing immigrants for being different, how about we welcome them, support them, and make a better home for everyone. Part of the reason it appears that they don't want to "integrate" is because so many people around them are instantly hostile. Be welcoming and you will be surprised at what you will learn about the world (and about yourself).

middleclick 10y ago
I am the product of immigration as well so I am not sure how anything I said makes it seem like I was not welcoming. Pointing out that there are issues with integration is not the same thing as being a racist. Has our discourse come to a level that one can't even talk about these things?
- kspaans 10y ago
  Pointing out that there are issues with integration is not the same thing as being a racist It's interesting to note that @plg didn't use the word "racist".
  - jmorphy88 10y ago
    No, but plg did refer to the locals as "caucasians" before calling them hostile and unwelcoming.