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Actually, I didn't botch the joke - it was you who missed the subtle point I was making. I think that, paradoxically, this may evolve eventually to more complet

by js8 11y ago

Actually, I didn't botch the joke - it was you who missed the subtle point I was making. I think that, paradoxically, this may evolve eventually to more complete (operating) system with an editor, just like Emacs has a debugger. That's why I asked the question, and made a clarification (which unfortunately killed the reason for being subtle) - your "doesn't add anything to the conversation" missed the point! (Actually, downvoting without a comment doesn't addd anything to the conversation either.)

sp332 11y ago
It looks like your original post doesn't actually say any of those things. There's a line between subtle and uncommunicative.
- js8 11y ago
  I think the 1st does, if you're willing to entertain the idea that it's not just the old joke about Emacs. The 2nd one actually explains it quite well. In any case, I think that downvoting without a comment crosses that line too. Sadly, the only guy who was willing to explain his disagreement with my original comment got downvoted too.
  - scrollaway 11y ago
    > I think that downvoting without a comment crosses that line too You're not being "downvoted without comments". gjm11 has made the effort of explaining to you why he's downvoting you. Expect a lot of people to feel the same way. Your comment was unnecessary, unjustified, insulting and you're still defending it. Don't be surprised.
    - js8 11y ago
      I wonder what you think was insulting in it? I was not particularly defending it, merely explaining the original intent; I don't see any insult in it. (Actually I wish people would discuss the valid point I made, as marssaxman did below, rather than the segway.) gjm11 explained his downvote, but after I asked. He was also downvoted (temporarily) for some reason.. I don't understand why calm debate about why something was downvoted is a source of so much emotions, that people have to downvote it as well. It makes me unhappy when people downvote without commenting, because it doesn't add to a discussion either.

by js8 11y ago

sp332 11y ago

It looks like your original post doesn't actually say any of those things. There's a line between subtle and uncommunicative.

js8 11y ago
I think the 1st does, if you're willing to entertain the idea that it's not just the old joke about Emacs. The 2nd one actually explains it quite well. In any case, I think that downvoting without a comment crosses that line too. Sadly, the only guy who was willing to explain his disagreement with my original comment got downvoted too.
- scrollaway 11y ago
  > I think that downvoting without a comment crosses that line too You're not being "downvoted without comments". gjm11 has made the effort of explaining to you why he's downvoting you. Expect a lot of people to feel the same way. Your comment was unnecessary, unjustified, insulting and you're still defending it. Don't be surprised.
  - js8 11y ago
    I wonder what you think was insulting in it? I was not particularly defending it, merely explaining the original intent; I don't see any insult in it. (Actually I wish people would discuss the valid point I made, as marssaxman did below, rather than the segway.) gjm11 explained his downvote, but after I asked. He was also downvoted (temporarily) for some reason.. I don't understand why calm debate about why something was downvoted is a source of so much emotions, that people have to downvote it as well. It makes me unhappy when people downvote without commenting, because it doesn't add to a discussion either.