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A very spot-on claim. Your exposure to this largely depends on the circles you (have to) socialize with but you can observe little bits of it everywhere. I woul

by yason 11y ago

A very spot-on claim. Your exposure to this largely depends on the circles you (have to) socialize with but you can observe little bits of it everywhere. I would guess individuals would tend to avoid this kind of behavioural control and thus see less of it if they have a choice, so it's not necessarily regarded as a problem in the general public. There's a loud crowd of proponents for this kind of behaviour and that is working its way into the fabric of the society behind the curtains. Moreover, the example linked to in the article¹ is sickening and feels outright revulsive. That is the very slippery slope of all slippery slopes: you are left to wonder what indeed could possibly come next? ¹) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/03/student-accused-of-violating-university-safe-space-by-raising-he/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/03/student-accused-o...

TheOtherHobbes 11y ago
But the only difference between this kind of thing and the manipulation and framing of debate by the press - including the Telegraph - is the level of journalistic sophistication used to shape the argument. It's interesting the debate was about "anti-semitism", because so far as I can tell that has become a code the UK press uses for anyone who thinks that Israel may not necessarily have the moral high ground in its dealings with the Palestinians. The nonsense about safe spaces and whatever is reprehensible, but it's actually less reprehensible than one-sided public debates where right-wing politicians are given space to attack anyone who thinks politicians should make their tax returns public for "immature populism", but attacking a left-leaning leader for the way he eats a bacon sandwich is mature and responsible journalism. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/may/06/sun-ed-miliband-labour-mail-telegraph-election http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/may/06/sun-ed-miliband... The point being that politics always seems to be a nasty business full of nasty people being nasty to each other, and everyone else they can get away with being nasty to. Maybe student politics is a symptom of that, not a cause.
- 7952 11y ago
  > attacking a left-leaning leader for the way he eats a bacon sandwich is mature and responsible journalism. I have always wondered if that line of attack was actually anti-semetic (Milliband's dad was a Belgian-born Polish Jewish). The UK is a place where people are mostly too insensitive to notice actual prejudice. Bad behaviour is so competely pathalogical and institutional that no one really believes it exists beyond fringe weirdos.
- marrs 11y ago
  It's interesting the debate was about "anti-semitism", because so far as I can tell that has become a code the UK press uses for anyone who thinks that Israel may not necessarily have the moral high ground in its dealings with the Palestinians. Which is ironic considering that the word simite applies equally to both.

by yason 11y ago

TheOtherHobbes 11y ago

But the only difference between this kind of thing and the manipulation and framing of debate by the press - including the Telegraph - is the level of journalistic sophistication used to shape the argument. It's interesting the debate was about "anti-semitism", because so far as I can tell that has become a code the UK press uses for anyone who thinks that Israel may not necessarily have the moral high ground in its dealings with the Palestinians. The nonsense about safe spaces and whatever is reprehensible, but it's actually less reprehensible than one-sided public debates where right-wing politicians are given space to attack anyone who thinks politicians should make their tax returns public for "immature populism", but attacking a left-leaning leader for the way he eats a bacon sandwich is mature and responsible journalism. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/may/06/sun-ed-miliband-labour-mail-telegraph-election http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/may/06/sun-ed-miliband... The point being that politics always seems to be a nasty business full of nasty people being nasty to each other, and everyone else they can get away with being nasty to. Maybe student politics is a symptom of that, not a cause.

7952 11y ago
> attacking a left-leaning leader for the way he eats a bacon sandwich is mature and responsible journalism. I have always wondered if that line of attack was actually anti-semetic (Milliband's dad was a Belgian-born Polish Jewish). The UK is a place where people are mostly too insensitive to notice actual prejudice. Bad behaviour is so competely pathalogical and institutional that no one really believes it exists beyond fringe weirdos.
marrs 11y ago
It's interesting the debate was about "anti-semitism", because so far as I can tell that has become a code the UK press uses for anyone who thinks that Israel may not necessarily have the moral high ground in its dealings with the Palestinians. Which is ironic considering that the word simite applies equally to both.