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Look here: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.0362291,118.4896355,546561m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.0362291,118.4896355,5465... Can yo

Look here: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.0362291,118.4896355,546561m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.0362291,118.4896355,5465... Can you figure out where there used to be trees ? That's now wheat farms mostly. Due to the tree removal salination has ruined 2 million hectares of what is now essential wasteland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salinity_in_Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salinity_in_Australia

swampthinker 11y ago
Wow, the way the farms are perfectly cut around the protected regions... I thought that was just tiling in GMaps. That's horrifying.
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soperj 11y ago
Don't know why you couldn't replant trees then. There are many types trees that do well in saltier soil. For example, White Ash, Red Cedar, Black Walnut, Japanese Black Pine, Pin Oak and Red Oak. Doubt it'd take much to get something estabilshed, and it'd probably take over on it's own gradually.
- thmcmahon 11y ago
  Not sure that you'd want to plant a bunch of European trees to replace native Australian forests.
  - monsieurbanana 11y ago
    Why?
    - thomasahle 11y ago
      Australia lost large parts of its native wildlife due to things like this.
    - ageofwant 11y ago
      It would be futile. Native Samphire, melaleucas and casuarinas can live in saline soil conditions that would kill most anything non-native. There may be exceptions of course. Its when the Samphire starts to die that you know your in shit street.
  - soperj 11y ago
    Those were examples. Find the australian equivalent. Pretty easy to find. Eucalyptus camaldulensis (River Red Gum) is one that is great in high saline environments. Eucalyptus leucoxylon (Yellow Gum), Eucalyptus melliodora (Yellow Box), Eucalyptus microcarpa (Grey Box), Eucalyptus ovata (Swamp Gum), Eucalyptus viminalis (Manna Gum), Acacia melanoxylon (Blackwood), Allocasuarina verticillata (Drooping Sheoak) Are all good in medium saline environments. So have your pick.
- ageofwant 11y ago
  Native Australian trees are the most salt-hardy trees on the planet. The non-native species you listed would most likely not even survive in "normal" Australian soil conditions.
- logfromblammo 11y ago
  Or grow an edible halophyte, such as Salicornia. In the long run, it would probably be wise to introduce a profitable salt-sequestering crop into regular rotations, just to keep marginal lands from becoming unfarmable.
Cerium 11y ago
Zoom in on just about anywhere in Oregon and you will see a strange halftone pattern. Checkerboard logging.
- cookrn 11y ago
  I think this may have been due to the railroad land grants originally https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkerboarding_(land) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkerboarding_(land)

swampthinker 11y ago

Wow, the way the farms are perfectly cut around the protected regions... I thought that was just tiling in GMaps. That's horrifying.

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soperj 11y ago

Don't know why you couldn't replant trees then. There are many types trees that do well in saltier soil. For example, White Ash, Red Cedar, Black Walnut, Japanese Black Pine, Pin Oak and Red Oak. Doubt it'd take much to get something estabilshed, and it'd probably take over on it's own gradually.

thmcmahon 11y ago
Not sure that you'd want to plant a bunch of European trees to replace native Australian forests.
- monsieurbanana 11y ago
  Why?
  - thomasahle 11y ago
    Australia lost large parts of its native wildlife due to things like this.
  - ageofwant 11y ago
    It would be futile. Native Samphire, melaleucas and casuarinas can live in saline soil conditions that would kill most anything non-native. There may be exceptions of course. Its when the Samphire starts to die that you know your in shit street.
- soperj 11y ago
  Those were examples. Find the australian equivalent. Pretty easy to find. Eucalyptus camaldulensis (River Red Gum) is one that is great in high saline environments. Eucalyptus leucoxylon (Yellow Gum), Eucalyptus melliodora (Yellow Box), Eucalyptus microcarpa (Grey Box), Eucalyptus ovata (Swamp Gum), Eucalyptus viminalis (Manna Gum), Acacia melanoxylon (Blackwood), Allocasuarina verticillata (Drooping Sheoak) Are all good in medium saline environments. So have your pick.
ageofwant 11y ago
Native Australian trees are the most salt-hardy trees on the planet. The non-native species you listed would most likely not even survive in "normal" Australian soil conditions.
logfromblammo 11y ago
Or grow an edible halophyte, such as Salicornia. In the long run, it would probably be wise to introduce a profitable salt-sequestering crop into regular rotations, just to keep marginal lands from becoming unfarmable.

Cerium 11y ago

Zoom in on just about anywhere in Oregon and you will see a strange halftone pattern. Checkerboard logging.

cookrn 11y ago
I think this may have been due to the railroad land grants originally https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkerboarding_(land) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkerboarding_(land)