DevOps != Ops. You don't have a DevOps guy, or a DevOps team. You have a team that does both development and operations. The less work they have to do (like th

DevOps != Ops. You don't have a DevOps guy, or a DevOps team. You have a team that does both development and operations. The less work they have to do (like the reduction of effort with managed services) the better, but it's still work we need to do. If you call out DevOps as a specific role, they you're not doing DevOps. Just like those practicing "Agile" are likely lacking in actual agility.