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> All drivers there are licensed by the NYC Taxi and Limousine Commission (TLC), as required by law. Their vehicles must also be licensed with the TLC, and they

by aianus 11y ago

> All drivers there are licensed by the NYC Taxi and Limousine Commission (TLC), as required by law. Their vehicles must also be licensed with the TLC, and they have to carry commercial insurance. This is going to negatively impact driver supply (making wait times higher, especially in the outer boroughs) and increase the cost of the service vs Uber. > Juno’s drivers will provide better service because they’re happier, Marco said. The only 'service' I want from a taxi driver is to show up, follow the GPS, and not double-swipe my credit card or claim the machine isn't working. Uber already has basically perfect service. Unless they have some secret innovation I'm not seeing this is going to be a massive failure.

ibejoeb 11y ago
> This is going to negatively impact driver supply All professional drivers, including Uber drivers, already need TLC licensing, as do their vehicles.
- aianus 11y ago
  I use Uber as shorthand for UberX, where the vast majority of drivers (at least in my city) have no commercial licensing or insurance. That's what enables them to be so cheap and ubiquitous. Maybe NYC specifically is different, I don't know.
  - ibejoeb 11y ago
    Yes, NYC is different. All for-hire drivers are required to go through the TLC. From Uber, itself: https://get.uber.com/cl/nyc/ https://get.uber.com/cl/nyc/. TLC also regulates the types of vehicles that must be driven and mandates commercial insurance.
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ArnoldP 11y ago
All other things being equal I'll go with the service that gives more to the person doing the actual labour.
- Laaw 11y ago
  But all things are most certainly not going to be equal, least of all cost and availability.
  - ArnoldP 11y ago
    There's atleast 15% wiggle room on each journey, seeing as Uber takes 20% off the top. Aside from their expenses promoting and competing with other 'ride sharing' services I don't see where that cash is going.
    - Laaw 11y ago
      > There's atleast 15% wiggle room on each journey, seeing as Uber takes 20% off the top. Seems like a number pulled from nowhere.
- redthrowaway 11y ago
  Buy anything from Amazon? Because they're infamous for treating their non-engineer employees terribly, yet I and most people I know still buy from them because they're cheap and have great customer service.
  - fjolthor 11y ago
    > All other things being equal.
  - ArnoldP 11y ago
    No, I don't. But I'm not in the US and Amazon doesn't really present that great a deal once you factor in shipping, taxes, duty etc. I don't shop at Walmart though, because of their poor track record treating their employees well.
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by aianus 11y ago

ibejoeb 11y ago

> This is going to negatively impact driver supply All professional drivers, including Uber drivers, already need TLC licensing, as do their vehicles.

aianus 11y ago
I use Uber as shorthand for UberX, where the vast majority of drivers (at least in my city) have no commercial licensing or insurance. That's what enables them to be so cheap and ubiquitous. Maybe NYC specifically is different, I don't know.
- ibejoeb 11y ago
  Yes, NYC is different. All for-hire drivers are required to go through the TLC. From Uber, itself: https://get.uber.com/cl/nyc/ https://get.uber.com/cl/nyc/. TLC also regulates the types of vehicles that must be driven and mandates commercial insurance.
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ArnoldP 11y ago

All other things being equal I'll go with the service that gives more to the person doing the actual labour.

Laaw 11y ago
But all things are most certainly not going to be equal, least of all cost and availability.
- ArnoldP 11y ago
  There's atleast 15% wiggle room on each journey, seeing as Uber takes 20% off the top. Aside from their expenses promoting and competing with other 'ride sharing' services I don't see where that cash is going.
  - Laaw 11y ago
    > There's atleast 15% wiggle room on each journey, seeing as Uber takes 20% off the top. Seems like a number pulled from nowhere.
redthrowaway 11y ago
Buy anything from Amazon? Because they're infamous for treating their non-engineer employees terribly, yet I and most people I know still buy from them because they're cheap and have great customer service.
- fjolthor 11y ago
  > All other things being equal.
- ArnoldP 11y ago
  No, I don't. But I'm not in the US and Amazon doesn't really present that great a deal once you factor in shipping, taxes, duty etc. I don't shop at Walmart though, because of their poor track record treating their employees well.
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