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This may be too pragmatic on my part but please consider the alternative before you think you made a really bad choice. Imagine if McCain/Palin had been elected

by abawany 11y ago

This may be too pragmatic on my part but please consider the alternative before you think you made a really bad choice. Imagine if McCain/Palin had been elected in 2008 and/or Romney/Ryan had been elected in 2012 - I can imagine this 5B "slap on the wrist" turning into a "pat on the back" for this vaunted job creator (i.e. Goldman Sachs).

CaptSpify 11y ago
I agree with both. If i was given the same choice today, I'd still vote for Obama. I'd still be choosing from the lesser of two evils, though
JackFr 11y ago
> Imagine if McCain/Palin had been elected in 2008 and/or Romney/Ryan had been elected in 2012 - I can imagine this 5B "slap on the wrist" turning into a "pat on the back" for this vaunted job creator (i.e. Goldman Sachs). This says more about your preconceptions than it does about anything in the real world, where John McCain joined Elizabeth Warren in introducing a bill to bring back Glass-Steagall and Mitt Romney has pointed out that Dodd-Frank was a gigantic gift to the New York banks.
- abawany 11y ago
  That's a pretty aggressive tone on your part but I will try to respond. You may be right about Sen. McCain but can you say the same about Palin? Further while I am happy to learn that he worked with Sen. Warren on trying to bring back Glass-Steagall, his eagerness to involve America in foreign wars is repulsive to some [3]. Nonetheless he is a class act and an American hero - in my opinion, people became afraid of his candidacy when Palin joined the ticket. Romney campaigned in 2012 on a promise to repeal ObamaCare, which was based on Massachusetts' RomneyCare [1]. He made the "47%" comment. He is also known to have said "corporations are people too, my friend." [2] It is unclear to me that he is as good for the middle class as he is for corporations, compared to President Obama. I maintain that McCain/Palin in 2008 and/or Romney/Ryan in 2012 would not have been as good for the US as the current administration. That remains my pragmatic opinion. [1] http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/23/mitt-romney-admits-romneycare-had-to-precede-obamacare.html http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/23/mitt-romney-admits-romneycare... [2] http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/if-corporations-are-people-they-should-act-like-it/385034/ http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/if-corpo... [3] http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/09/john-mccain-world-attack-map-syria http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/09/john-mccain-worl...

by abawany 11y ago

CaptSpify 11y ago

I agree with both. If i was given the same choice today, I'd still vote for Obama. I'd still be choosing from the lesser of two evils, though

JackFr 11y ago

> Imagine if McCain/Palin had been elected in 2008 and/or Romney/Ryan had been elected in 2012 - I can imagine this 5B "slap on the wrist" turning into a "pat on the back" for this vaunted job creator (i.e. Goldman Sachs). This says more about your preconceptions than it does about anything in the real world, where John McCain joined Elizabeth Warren in introducing a bill to bring back Glass-Steagall and Mitt Romney has pointed out that Dodd-Frank was a gigantic gift to the New York banks.

abawany 11y ago
That's a pretty aggressive tone on your part but I will try to respond. You may be right about Sen. McCain but can you say the same about Palin? Further while I am happy to learn that he worked with Sen. Warren on trying to bring back Glass-Steagall, his eagerness to involve America in foreign wars is repulsive to some [3]. Nonetheless he is a class act and an American hero - in my opinion, people became afraid of his candidacy when Palin joined the ticket. Romney campaigned in 2012 on a promise to repeal ObamaCare, which was based on Massachusetts' RomneyCare [1]. He made the "47%" comment. He is also known to have said "corporations are people too, my friend." [2] It is unclear to me that he is as good for the middle class as he is for corporations, compared to President Obama. I maintain that McCain/Palin in 2008 and/or Romney/Ryan in 2012 would not have been as good for the US as the current administration. That remains my pragmatic opinion. [1] http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/23/mitt-romney-admits-romneycare-had-to-precede-obamacare.html http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/23/mitt-romney-admits-romneycare... [2] http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/if-corporations-are-people-they-should-act-like-it/385034/ http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/if-corpo... [3] http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/09/john-mccain-world-attack-map-syria http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/09/john-mccain-worl...