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> ride the subway If you take public trans all the time, then you're doing a lot of walking. Trans takes you close enough but the 'last mile' is always on foot

> ride the subway If you take public trans all the time, then you're doing a lot of walking. Trans takes you close enough but the 'last mile' is always on foot. That's a decent amount of exercise, at least compared to someone who is always driving. This is how I grew up and when I was older, the move to the suburbs was pretty jarring. Everyone got fatter as we stopped getting all that city walking. Worse, the suburbs didn't have a lot of healthy food options. So you drove more and ate crappier. A pack of cigarettes in NYC is around $13. In a poor rural or suburban community, its half that. A lot of the urban poor simply can't afford smoking anymore. This must certainly affect things, at least as much as anti-smoking PSAs. NYC also has 1.1m Jews, who tend to have a slightly higher than average life expectancy, especially the religiously observant who follow strict dietary limits. That might skew things a little as well.

codyb 11y ago
Most of the cigarette trade here ends up being virginia taxed because of that cost for smokes. I thought it was 500,000 Jewish persons but it looks like 1.1m checks out from a quick google search. That's a huge percentage of the population.
theandrewbailey 11y ago
About 1 month ago, I moved to within a 15 minute walk of the Pittsburgh T. I really want to use it more. They allow bikes on the T, so I'm planning to get one to ride around downtown and out in the country. I am glad to get out of the suburban hell I was living in for 6 years.
zhemao 11y ago
The strict dietary laws make their diet less healthy, generally. Orthodox Jews have a very restricted diet which is heavy on starch and fat. When you can't eat fresh fruit or vegetables because of the possibility of accidentally consuming insects, your diet isn't going to be the healthiest.
- eric_h 11y ago
  Agreed, and I would also suggest that the number of strictly observant jews is a small fraction of the New York population that identify as jewish and would be counted as such in a survey

codyb 11y ago

Most of the cigarette trade here ends up being virginia taxed because of that cost for smokes. I thought it was 500,000 Jewish persons but it looks like 1.1m checks out from a quick google search. That's a huge percentage of the population.

theandrewbailey 11y ago

About 1 month ago, I moved to within a 15 minute walk of the Pittsburgh T. I really want to use it more. They allow bikes on the T, so I'm planning to get one to ride around downtown and out in the country. I am glad to get out of the suburban hell I was living in for 6 years.

zhemao 11y ago

The strict dietary laws make their diet less healthy, generally. Orthodox Jews have a very restricted diet which is heavy on starch and fat. When you can't eat fresh fruit or vegetables because of the possibility of accidentally consuming insects, your diet isn't going to be the healthiest.

eric_h 11y ago
Agreed, and I would also suggest that the number of strictly observant jews is a small fraction of the New York population that identify as jewish and would be counted as such in a survey