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I don't want some yutz who came out of a ten week medical bootcamp doing rude things to my corpus.

cookiecaper 11y ago
There is a middle ground between 10 weeks of training and 10 years of training plus hundreds of thousands in debt. The AMA and ABA are out of control.
- tamana 11y ago
  Law is only 7 years training and the first 4 are in any field you choose. And there are opportunities for paid semipro internships every summer.
  - cookiecaper 11y ago
    Medicine is 4 years undergrad (in which an aggressive pre-med curriculum must be completed in order to be considered for admission to med school) + 4 years med school + 1 year residency (9 years), and if you're becoming a specialist, throw 3-5 more years in there for extra classroom time and an extended residency. Also bear in mind that this is just formal schooling; these totals don't include the time needed to prepare for specialized entrance exams like the MCAT. It's excessive. As for law, most non-US jurisdictions allow attorneys to practice after 5 years of training and the receipt of a LLB degree, whereas the US typically requires the full 7 years and a JD. Just another way the ABA is protecting the American public.
SilasX 11y ago
What about someone who had informally studied physiology and medicine consistently since he was 5, followed the literature religiously, and had always advised people on ailments (in ways that consistently matched or even corrected what doctors did), and was able to give lengthy extemporaneous talks about medical problems and the pros and cons of treating them different ways? And the bootcamp was just plugging him into understanding of professional clinical practices and connecting him to clinics with credibility? (That's roughly where I was before going to a programming bootcamp, mapped over to the medical world.)
aianus 11y ago
Are you aware that medical schools are largely pass/fail with a 95%+ graduation rate? Makes it hard for me to have any confidence in the credential whatsoever. In comparison, over 20% of my freshman CS class flunked out before 3rd year and there were still plenty of subpar students that made it to the finish line.
- naveen99 11y ago
  Organic chemistry weeds out a lot of premeds before they even get to medical school. Also medical school is not the end of it. Lot of people fail out of residency. And residency is a lot more brutal. You don't get to keep making mistakes. And then the medical boards do take away lot of medical licenses for all kinds of stuff based on complaints by patients, pharmacists, others.

There is a middle ground between 10 weeks of training and 10 years of training plus hundreds of thousands in debt. The AMA and ABA are out of control.

tamana 11y ago
Law is only 7 years training and the first 4 are in any field you choose. And there are opportunities for paid semipro internships every summer.
- cookiecaper 11y ago
  Medicine is 4 years undergrad (in which an aggressive pre-med curriculum must be completed in order to be considered for admission to med school) + 4 years med school + 1 year residency (9 years), and if you're becoming a specialist, throw 3-5 more years in there for extra classroom time and an extended residency. Also bear in mind that this is just formal schooling; these totals don't include the time needed to prepare for specialized entrance exams like the MCAT. It's excessive. As for law, most non-US jurisdictions allow attorneys to practice after 5 years of training and the receipt of a LLB degree, whereas the US typically requires the full 7 years and a JD. Just another way the ABA is protecting the American public.

SilasX 11y ago

What about someone who had informally studied physiology and medicine consistently since he was 5, followed the literature religiously, and had always advised people on ailments (in ways that consistently matched or even corrected what doctors did), and was able to give lengthy extemporaneous talks about medical problems and the pros and cons of treating them different ways? And the bootcamp was just plugging him into understanding of professional clinical practices and connecting him to clinics with credibility? (That's roughly where I was before going to a programming bootcamp, mapped over to the medical world.)

aianus 11y ago

Are you aware that medical schools are largely pass/fail with a 95%+ graduation rate? Makes it hard for me to have any confidence in the credential whatsoever. In comparison, over 20% of my freshman CS class flunked out before 3rd year and there were still plenty of subpar students that made it to the finish line.

naveen99 11y ago
Organic chemistry weeds out a lot of premeds before they even get to medical school. Also medical school is not the end of it. Lot of people fail out of residency. And residency is a lot more brutal. You don't get to keep making mistakes. And then the medical boards do take away lot of medical licenses for all kinds of stuff based on complaints by patients, pharmacists, others.