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Hey Google, sell these to other companies :)

chronid 11y ago
Well, these are not power9, but in theory... :P http://www.penguincomputing.com/products/rackmount-servers/openpower-servers/ http://www.penguincomputing.com/products/rackmount-servers/o...
- nullc 11y ago
  Anyone have any idea on the rough prices of these systems? Or is it the "if you have to ask, it's too much for you" as seem to be the case with the IBM power systems?
  - loeg 11y ago
    Talos plan to, if demand allows, sell you a bare bones POWER8 (CPU, heatsink, and mainboard) for $3,700 USD. https://raptorengineeringinc.com/TALOS/prerelease.php https://raptorengineeringinc.com/TALOS/prerelease.php
    - nullc 11y ago
      Sadly that's $1000 more than they were originally talking about; still low compared to IBMs prices, but much harder to justify for most applications.
      - loeg 11y ago
        Yes, very hard to justify when a high-end 4-core Xeon outperforms on some benchmarks[0] and costs half as much or less. Not to mention vastly mature open source floating point, compiler, etc, support. As well as existing (invalid, but still) programs that assume x86isms. [0]: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=talos-workstation&num=3 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=talos-wo...
  - 0xcde4c3db 11y ago
    Most POWER8 stuff does seem to be in the "contact us" category. The only reference point I know of is that Tyan has (had?) a reference platform for 2850 USD, but that's basically beta quality and not intended to be production hardware. http://www.tyan.com/campaign/openpower/ http://www.tyan.com/campaign/openpower/
    - _delirium 11y ago
      IBM has public pricing for most of their POWER8 servers. The price is high, but public. :) http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/linux.html http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/linux.html
  - ajdlinux 11y ago
    Some IBM Power Systems machines can now be ordered online (at least for US customers) - https://www.ibm.com/marketplace/cloud/big-data-infrastructure/purchase/us/en-us https://www.ibm.com/marketplace/cloud/big-data-infrastructur.... [Disclosure: IBMer]
mtgx 11y ago
Wistron will probably sell them: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10230/ibm-nvidia-and-wistron-develop-new-openpower-hpc-server-with-power8-cpus-nvlink http://www.anandtech.com/show/10230/ibm-nvidia-and-wistron-d...
crudbug 11y ago
It will be great if Dell / HP / Cisco / Lenovo others start forging some POWER gear .. For a platform to succees, it should provide low barrier of entry - may be a low capacity P9 system at a low cost ~ 1K ? Will be a better strategy for OF. I know Power is targeting cloud computing applications, but IBM should consider low cost entry level gear for getting some market share at the lower level which can transition to higher margin markets .

Well, these are not power9, but in theory... :P http://www.penguincomputing.com/products/rackmount-servers/openpower-servers/ http://www.penguincomputing.com/products/rackmount-servers/o...

nullc 11y ago
Anyone have any idea on the rough prices of these systems? Or is it the "if you have to ask, it's too much for you" as seem to be the case with the IBM power systems?
- loeg 11y ago
  Talos plan to, if demand allows, sell you a bare bones POWER8 (CPU, heatsink, and mainboard) for $3,700 USD. https://raptorengineeringinc.com/TALOS/prerelease.php https://raptorengineeringinc.com/TALOS/prerelease.php
  - nullc 11y ago
    Sadly that's $1000 more than they were originally talking about; still low compared to IBMs prices, but much harder to justify for most applications.
    - loeg 11y ago
      Yes, very hard to justify when a high-end 4-core Xeon outperforms on some benchmarks[0] and costs half as much or less. Not to mention vastly mature open source floating point, compiler, etc, support. As well as existing (invalid, but still) programs that assume x86isms. [0]: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=talos-workstation&num=3 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=talos-wo...
- 0xcde4c3db 11y ago
  Most POWER8 stuff does seem to be in the "contact us" category. The only reference point I know of is that Tyan has (had?) a reference platform for 2850 USD, but that's basically beta quality and not intended to be production hardware. http://www.tyan.com/campaign/openpower/ http://www.tyan.com/campaign/openpower/
  - _delirium 11y ago
    IBM has public pricing for most of their POWER8 servers. The price is high, but public. :) http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/linux.html http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/linux.html
- ajdlinux 11y ago
  Some IBM Power Systems machines can now be ordered online (at least for US customers) - https://www.ibm.com/marketplace/cloud/big-data-infrastructure/purchase/us/en-us https://www.ibm.com/marketplace/cloud/big-data-infrastructur.... [Disclosure: IBMer]

mtgx 11y ago

Wistron will probably sell them: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10230/ibm-nvidia-and-wistron-develop-new-openpower-hpc-server-with-power8-cpus-nvlink http://www.anandtech.com/show/10230/ibm-nvidia-and-wistron-d...

crudbug 11y ago

It will be great if Dell / HP / Cisco / Lenovo others start forging some POWER gear .. For a platform to succees, it should provide low barrier of entry - may be a low capacity P9 system at a low cost ~ 1K ? Will be a better strategy for OF. I know Power is targeting cloud computing applications, but IBM should consider low cost entry level gear for getting some market share at the lower level which can transition to higher margin markets .