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What if Marx was right?
by danharaj 11y ago
What if Marx was right?
- unclebucknasty 11y agoThat's actually a thoughtful comment, irrespective of whether one "agrees with communism". Not sure why it's being downvoted.
- turkishrevenge 11y agoHe was in many respects. However, that offends delicate sensibilities here and so down goes da the vote.
- tim333 11y agoPresumably amongst the 50 volumes of Marx/Engels Collected Works he was right in some places and wrong in others.
- unclebucknasty 11y agoPresumably, a better approach to downvoting would be to explore the works in context.
- tim333 11y agoI didn't downvote myself and also have no intention to further explore the works - awful vague pompous stuff that they seem to be from the few pages I've read.
- unclebucknasty 11y agoWell, that must be the most concise summary of their work in history.
- Natsu 11y agoIt's terribly vague and offers no insight as to which things Marx might have been right about. There's a child comment that's a bit better, but it dumps a lot of Wikipedia links out with little in the way of explanation. In short, on HN it's better if you can explore ideas more thoroughly, rather than simply tossing out short quips and assuming everyone is on the same page. It would be better to write something along the lines of 'When the article says __, this illustrates what Marx was talking about when he defined __ and that ties in with...' or such so there could be more discussion about ideas and less noise about voting or simple opinions.
- unclebucknasty 11y agoOr it could be viewed as a provocative, open-ended question, inviting exploration by those more versed on Marx's work.
- Natsu 11y agoStone Soup has to start with someone putting in at least a stone's worth.
- unclebucknasty 11y agoThe measure of a stone is clearly subjective.
- Natsu 11y agoIndeed, which is why I was pointing at the rough consensus we have observed.
- megalodon 11y ago> Through his theories of alienation, value, commodity fetishism, and surplus value, Marx argued that capitalism facilitated social relations through commodification and the exploitation of labor. This is remarkably close to the views expressed in the article, but I guess you're being downvoted because you hit a nerve. Links for the interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alienation_of_labor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alienation_of_labor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_value https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_value https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surplus_value https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surplus_value https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploitation_of_labor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploitation_of_labor
- pnevmatico 11y agoWhat if your grandfather perished in a Marxist labor camp? What would you think then?
- danharaj 11y agoThere's no such thing as a Marxist labor camp and I'm well aware of the cluster fuck that every would-be dictator of the proletariat was starting with Lenin. I'mean not a Marxist, and especially not a Marxist-Leninist. That doesn't mean I can't take Marx's economic ideas seriously. Also, you probably don't care about the fact that there are labor programs at US prisons where workers are paid cents for the hour to do labor. I think your moral challenge is in bad faith.