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Oh, I get it, like when you go to a funeral and people try to focus on the the memories that make them happy, or find comfort in religious fairy tales about 'li

Oh, I get it, like when you go to a funeral and people try to focus on the the memories that make them happy, or find comfort in religious fairy tales about 'living forever'. Or when people who are fired are allowed to 'resign' to save face. I think this isn't as nefarious as the internet hive mind seems to think: Imagine that someone quits to go onto better things, more money, etc. Of course you throw them a going away party. Then someone else is fired, but you want to let them save face. Do you throw them a party? You've established that people leaving on their own get a party already... You guys seem to think that the answer is obvious, you tell everyone "so and so was just fired for poor performance, they are bad at their job and that is why they are unemployed now." and have the person do a walk of shame out the door and never feel like they can put it behind them or face any of their former coworkers again without overcoming a massive amount of shame.

sremani 11y ago
Firing is rejection, it does not necessarily mean that the person being fired has anything to do with it. Whole unit moving to a different city, moving to a different tech stack. Brining in pals of the New Director, etc. etc. There are 1000 reasons, but Firing is REJECTION. At a human level, only the vexed are relieved that they are fired, most even after understanding the big picture are not in a rejoicing state of mind, because they have to find some other way to find lost Pay. So, no celebrating loss of Income is only fitting for few and in most cases a Sadistic ritual. Its a different thing that co-workers take initiative to send off a good bye, but the company doing it looks dubious and the whole "Graduate" ritual is sadistic.
- justin_vanw 11y ago
  Sadistic means that they took pleasure in causing the person pain. I really doubt that.
  - sremani 11y ago
    If they are celebrating "graduation", aren't they celebrating pain and suffering of the outgoing employee. Again, the practice is sadistic at least at the emotional level to me. May be it is Graduating as a Rock Star. ps. Please stop moving the goal posts.
justin_vanw 11y ago
Just to clarify, I was saying 'like these other rituals' sarcastically, my point was to say 'look, humans often have ritualization around difficult events, and that is ok, people find comfort in it'.

sremani 11y ago

Firing is rejection, it does not necessarily mean that the person being fired has anything to do with it. Whole unit moving to a different city, moving to a different tech stack. Brining in pals of the New Director, etc. etc. There are 1000 reasons, but Firing is REJECTION. At a human level, only the vexed are relieved that they are fired, most even after understanding the big picture are not in a rejoicing state of mind, because they have to find some other way to find lost Pay. So, no celebrating loss of Income is only fitting for few and in most cases a Sadistic ritual. Its a different thing that co-workers take initiative to send off a good bye, but the company doing it looks dubious and the whole "Graduate" ritual is sadistic.

justin_vanw 11y ago
Sadistic means that they took pleasure in causing the person pain. I really doubt that.
- sremani 11y ago
  If they are celebrating "graduation", aren't they celebrating pain and suffering of the outgoing employee. Again, the practice is sadistic at least at the emotional level to me. May be it is Graduating as a Rock Star. ps. Please stop moving the goal posts.

justin_vanw 11y ago

Just to clarify, I was saying 'like these other rituals' sarcastically, my point was to say 'look, humans often have ritualization around difficult events, and that is ok, people find comfort in it'.