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From the apps you mention, except for zoho creator, I feel like are all developer oriented (I can be wrong). In a way, what I want to do is to make apps using

by singold 10y ago

From the apps you mention, except for zoho creator, I feel like are all developer oriented (I can be wrong). In a way, what I want to do is to make apps using spreadsheets as the requirements for the app. What do you mean by 'start application first and not try to theorize it'? Isn't that I don't agree but I didn't understand it well and it looks like somenthing interesting to take into account.

kumarski 10y ago
I'm not a developer though..... I use these ones.
- singold 10y ago
  Ok, maybe 'Developer' wasn't the best term, what I really meant was that those products are for people that are somewhat technical oriented. For example, I see from your submission history that your are probably a biochemist [1] and also that you know what is a regular expression [2] so I guess that you know how to program to some degree, and that if you wanted you probably could make your own crud app. The majority of people that I imagine using my product dont't know nor want to know how to program, let alone what a regular expression is. BTW, im still interested on what you meant by 'start application first and not try to theorize it' :) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10863718 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10863718 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11024116 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11024116
osullivj 10y ago
Have you looked at spreadsheetweb.com and calcfusion.com? The former seems mature, with plenty of real paying customers. The latter is new, and I guess they're still working on getting traction.
- osullivj 10y ago
  Here's two more: karmaplatform.com and kdcalc.com. This whole area of converting end user produced Excel solutions to scalable systems does seem very promising. But no one has nailed it yet, and I suspect there are at least two reasons. 1) Over technical solutions that require a .xls to be converted into some other technical deployable eg kdcalc.com producing a .jar 2) The diversity of Excel based solutions eg spreadsheet as DB vs. spreadsheet as calc engine vs spreadsheet as reporting dashboard. So when you say "convert a spreadsheet into a web app", it means many things to many people. Which is a real expectation management challenge!
  - singold 10y ago
    The expectations management you mention is really important, I need to think how to communicate that clearly to customers. In this case we are going to make it "cloud based" so there's no need to deploy anything. About the different kind of spreadsheet uses, the more use cases that we can found the better, also we are going to start with the more simple cases to reach a functioning product and then expand to the most complex ones.
- singold 10y ago
  Seems like my google-fu is a little rusty, because I didn't find this kind of companies that I assumed that existed. This looks like real competition, what is good to validate that a market exists. Thanks for the tip! I would look into them with more detail tonight

by singold 10y ago

kumarski 10y ago

I'm not a developer though..... I use these ones.

singold 10y ago
Ok, maybe 'Developer' wasn't the best term, what I really meant was that those products are for people that are somewhat technical oriented. For example, I see from your submission history that your are probably a biochemist [1] and also that you know what is a regular expression [2] so I guess that you know how to program to some degree, and that if you wanted you probably could make your own crud app. The majority of people that I imagine using my product dont't know nor want to know how to program, let alone what a regular expression is. BTW, im still interested on what you meant by 'start application first and not try to theorize it' :) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10863718 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10863718 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11024116 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11024116

osullivj 10y ago

Have you looked at spreadsheetweb.com and calcfusion.com? The former seems mature, with plenty of real paying customers. The latter is new, and I guess they're still working on getting traction.

osullivj 10y ago
Here's two more: karmaplatform.com and kdcalc.com. This whole area of converting end user produced Excel solutions to scalable systems does seem very promising. But no one has nailed it yet, and I suspect there are at least two reasons. 1) Over technical solutions that require a .xls to be converted into some other technical deployable eg kdcalc.com producing a .jar 2) The diversity of Excel based solutions eg spreadsheet as DB vs. spreadsheet as calc engine vs spreadsheet as reporting dashboard. So when you say "convert a spreadsheet into a web app", it means many things to many people. Which is a real expectation management challenge!
- singold 10y ago
  The expectations management you mention is really important, I need to think how to communicate that clearly to customers. In this case we are going to make it "cloud based" so there's no need to deploy anything. About the different kind of spreadsheet uses, the more use cases that we can found the better, also we are going to start with the more simple cases to reach a functioning product and then expand to the most complex ones.
singold 10y ago
Seems like my google-fu is a little rusty, because I didn't find this kind of companies that I assumed that existed. This looks like real competition, what is good to validate that a market exists. Thanks for the tip! I would look into them with more detail tonight