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To raise kids, money beyond a low threshold is not relevant, providing a good education is. Money, or better, social capital gets importance when these kids be

To raise kids, money beyond a low threshold is not relevant, providing a good education is. Money, or better, social capital gets importance when these kids become young adults and have chosen career paths with less demand.

mc32 11y ago
Maybe to some degree these kids are the same kids who when society was agricultural were the ones who ran away from home despite the taboo against leaving the family went to the city and tried striking it out their own way. It's not the dame as the George Foremans or the Merle Haggards of the world who while making good had fortunate accidents help them along the way. Or maybe it is exactly the same, just expressed differently.
superuser2 11y ago
>money beyond a low threshold is not relevant, providing a good education is. Except that a good education is usually gated behind 1) high property values and property taxes in a suburban neighborhood, 2) high tuition, or 3) extremely competitive tests/lotteries to get into the small handful of good schools in failing urban districts. Not everyone has a parent who can afford to be away from work long enough to be an effective substitute for a good school district.
- IkmoIkmo 11y ago
  Absolutely, accessibility is very much linked to money. But usability of an education that's provided to you is, too. For example, time spent working. I recall every vacation, every weekend and at least 1-2 mon-fri days or nights working, to help pay my dad's bills, pay for college, or just pay for things my parents couldn't help me out with even though I lived with them as an 18 yo, like medical insurance. There was never any downtime for me where I had a full weekend off, or a spring break to wind down after a few months of school. Barely any time was available to simply relax, have fun, remove stress or hell have time for my 'identity project'. Being ill for a day and missing a day of school work would mess everything up because I couldn't skip work, and I had no time spare in a given week as a buffer to 'catch up' up on stuff. It's a constant level of stress, which affects your studies, too. I was actually one of the lucky ones who lived in a nice neighbourhood where the median person had 5x our household income with free state subsidised education, it was great. But even then, I couldn't make full use of it like I could've if we had more disposable income. There are a lot of indirect factors, work was just one of them.
microcolonel 11y ago
I've done well without "an education". I think it's probably more complex than that.
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- simplify 11y ago
  Could it be that you provided your own education? If so, I would say most are not organized or visionary enough to do the same thing.
- hackuser 11y ago
  In a world of 7 billion people, there are always millions of exceptions. But it's beyond a doubt that there's a very strong relationship between education and economic success and personal happiness.
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SCAQTony 11y ago
I have to agree with you, I have no high school diploma (ADDHD, dyslexia, deafness in one ear) and it was social capital and extroverted behavior that allowed me to meet upwardly pointed people in the arts that mentored me.

mc32 11y ago

Maybe to some degree these kids are the same kids who when society was agricultural were the ones who ran away from home despite the taboo against leaving the family went to the city and tried striking it out their own way. It's not the dame as the George Foremans or the Merle Haggards of the world who while making good had fortunate accidents help them along the way. Or maybe it is exactly the same, just expressed differently.

superuser2 11y ago

>money beyond a low threshold is not relevant, providing a good education is. Except that a good education is usually gated behind 1) high property values and property taxes in a suburban neighborhood, 2) high tuition, or 3) extremely competitive tests/lotteries to get into the small handful of good schools in failing urban districts. Not everyone has a parent who can afford to be away from work long enough to be an effective substitute for a good school district.

IkmoIkmo 11y ago
Absolutely, accessibility is very much linked to money. But usability of an education that's provided to you is, too. For example, time spent working. I recall every vacation, every weekend and at least 1-2 mon-fri days or nights working, to help pay my dad's bills, pay for college, or just pay for things my parents couldn't help me out with even though I lived with them as an 18 yo, like medical insurance. There was never any downtime for me where I had a full weekend off, or a spring break to wind down after a few months of school. Barely any time was available to simply relax, have fun, remove stress or hell have time for my 'identity project'. Being ill for a day and missing a day of school work would mess everything up because I couldn't skip work, and I had no time spare in a given week as a buffer to 'catch up' up on stuff. It's a constant level of stress, which affects your studies, too. I was actually one of the lucky ones who lived in a nice neighbourhood where the median person had 5x our household income with free state subsidised education, it was great. But even then, I couldn't make full use of it like I could've if we had more disposable income. There are a lot of indirect factors, work was just one of them.

microcolonel 11y ago

I've done well without "an education". I think it's probably more complex than that.

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simplify 11y ago
Could it be that you provided your own education? If so, I would say most are not organized or visionary enough to do the same thing.
hackuser 11y ago
In a world of 7 billion people, there are always millions of exceptions. But it's beyond a doubt that there's a very strong relationship between education and economic success and personal happiness.

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SCAQTony 11y ago

I have to agree with you, I have no high school diploma (ADDHD, dyslexia, deafness in one ear) and it was social capital and extroverted behavior that allowed me to meet upwardly pointed people in the arts that mentored me.