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Yes, and Turkey (80 million middle eastern people) will get EU membership. Merkel cut a deal w/ Turkey to take back immigrants in return for EU membership. li

Yes, and Turkey (80 million middle eastern people) will get EU membership. Merkel cut a deal w/ Turkey to take back immigrants in return for EU membership. link: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-turkey-idUSKCN0SC08B20151019 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-tu...

semigroupoid 10y ago
Even if Merkel had made such a promise (which she didn't), she does not get to decide who becomes a member of the EU. The human rights situation in Turkey makes it impossible for them to join the EU.
TillE 10y ago
Only in Erdogan's dreams. There are many many factors which prevent Turkey from joining the EU, and they have only become worse since the subject was initially raised years ago.
akhatri_aus 10y ago
This is unlikely, many countries have already pledged to veto it.
mavdi 10y ago
You should try twitter. Lots of like minded people.
21 10y ago
That's not how EU extension works. Even if Turkey solves it's human rights issues, which are a big blocker right now, it still takes a single EU country to veto Turkey accession.
vidarh 10y ago
As much as I'd personally be all for giving Turkey EU membership eventually, with Turkey's current trajectory they are decades away from getting it, and Erdogan seems intent on reducing their chances. Even if Merkel tried to push for Turkish membership, it'd take years of negotiations and further years of reforms before anything could happen. EDIT: Note that what the article actually says is that she has offered to help accelerate the membership discussions. But even if Germany pushes to ensure talks with Turkey are fast-tracked, the ultimate thing that prevents Turkish EU membership is that Turkey needs to carry out extensive reforms - both political and economical - as well as convincing several EU member states not to veto membership before there's any way they will be allowed entry. Even if the negotiations concluded tomorrow, it'd take years - probably a decade or more - for Turkey to complete the required reforms (and that assumes the government would even want to carry out these reforms, which Erdogan seems totally uninterested in). I think it's more likely membership will take on the order of 15-20 years.

semigroupoid 10y ago

Even if Merkel had made such a promise (which she didn't), she does not get to decide who becomes a member of the EU. The human rights situation in Turkey makes it impossible for them to join the EU.

TillE 10y ago

Only in Erdogan's dreams. There are many many factors which prevent Turkey from joining the EU, and they have only become worse since the subject was initially raised years ago.

akhatri_aus 10y ago

This is unlikely, many countries have already pledged to veto it.

mavdi 10y ago

You should try twitter. Lots of like minded people.

21 10y ago

That's not how EU extension works. Even if Turkey solves it's human rights issues, which are a big blocker right now, it still takes a single EU country to veto Turkey accession.

vidarh 10y ago

As much as I'd personally be all for giving Turkey EU membership eventually, with Turkey's current trajectory they are decades away from getting it, and Erdogan seems intent on reducing their chances. Even if Merkel tried to push for Turkish membership, it'd take years of negotiations and further years of reforms before anything could happen. EDIT: Note that what the article actually says is that she has offered to help accelerate the membership discussions. But even if Germany pushes to ensure talks with Turkey are fast-tracked, the ultimate thing that prevents Turkish EU membership is that Turkey needs to carry out extensive reforms - both political and economical - as well as convincing several EU member states not to veto membership before there's any way they will be allowed entry. Even if the negotiations concluded tomorrow, it'd take years - probably a decade or more - for Turkey to complete the required reforms (and that assumes the government would even want to carry out these reforms, which Erdogan seems totally uninterested in). I think it's more likely membership will take on the order of 15-20 years.