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You don't even need automation to do this. It's just a matter of goals. For example, in Israel, a few years ago, all cashiers we're forced to stand they're full

by petra 11y ago

You don't even need automation to do this. It's just a matter of goals. For example, in Israel, a few years ago, all cashiers we're forced to stand they're full shift. And than the law changed and they must have a chair to sit on. The impact on the prices is negligible maybe even zero, the impact on profits is probably tiny if exists. The impact on the cashiers ? huge. So why did they do it the other way ? because capitalism at it's core is a system built on exploitation and power imbalances and races to the bottom. And it definitely needs to be fixed.

edanm 11y ago
"because capitalism at it's core is a system built on exploitation and power imbalances and races to the bottom." That's a very strong claim, which I don't agree with at all. Why do you think this is true? Btw, that's an interesting story about the cashiers in Israel, haven't heard of it before. Do you have a citation?
- x5n1 11y ago
  Capitalism in fact all economics is based on exploitation. definition of exploitation: make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource). > power imbalances Some people have capital, most people don't. Those who don't have it are exploited as in above. > races to the bottom This is a bit more difficult to prove. But from Wikipedia: "The race to the bottom is a socio-economic phrase which is used to describe government deregulation of the business environment or taxes in order to attract or retain economic activity in their jurisdictions. An outcome of globalization and free trade, the phenomenon may occur when competition increases between geographic areas over a particular sector of trade and production." We call this Economic Liberalism and it is the prevailing economic theory. There is a logic that justifies all of this as a good and positive thing from a societal or even a global development prespective. But the cost for all of these is definitely paid by the individual.
- petra 11y ago
  Citation:http://www.haaretz.com/news/new-law-requires-employers-to-supply-workers-with-chairs-1.212968 http://www.haaretz.com/news/new-law-requires-employers-to-su... >> "because capitalism at it's core is a system built on exploitation and power imbalances and races to the bottom." - races to the bottom - companies will do a lot to save cents per product, even sabotage quality. that's what i see in the appliance market - where everything is a piece of shit reliability wise. Same in the clothing market(shitty chemicals), ikea furniture, low quality of many software products, many electronic components(micro controllers), etc. Exploitation and power imbalances - Besides state protection - that's relatively hard to get, for many jobs, employers have most of the power and they behave accordingly. suicides in Apple factories(again it would matter to Apple almost at all if employees had reasonable conditions) or the story from Israel is one among many. Are you Israeli BTW?
  - edanm 11y ago
    Thanks for the citation! Yes, I am Israeli.

by petra 11y ago

edanm 11y ago

"because capitalism at it's core is a system built on exploitation and power imbalances and races to the bottom." That's a very strong claim, which I don't agree with at all. Why do you think this is true? Btw, that's an interesting story about the cashiers in Israel, haven't heard of it before. Do you have a citation?

x5n1 11y ago
Capitalism in fact all economics is based on exploitation. definition of exploitation: make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource). > power imbalances Some people have capital, most people don't. Those who don't have it are exploited as in above. > races to the bottom This is a bit more difficult to prove. But from Wikipedia: "The race to the bottom is a socio-economic phrase which is used to describe government deregulation of the business environment or taxes in order to attract or retain economic activity in their jurisdictions. An outcome of globalization and free trade, the phenomenon may occur when competition increases between geographic areas over a particular sector of trade and production." We call this Economic Liberalism and it is the prevailing economic theory. There is a logic that justifies all of this as a good and positive thing from a societal or even a global development prespective. But the cost for all of these is definitely paid by the individual.
petra 11y ago
Citation:http://www.haaretz.com/news/new-law-requires-employers-to-supply-workers-with-chairs-1.212968 http://www.haaretz.com/news/new-law-requires-employers-to-su... >> "because capitalism at it's core is a system built on exploitation and power imbalances and races to the bottom." - races to the bottom - companies will do a lot to save cents per product, even sabotage quality. that's what i see in the appliance market - where everything is a piece of shit reliability wise. Same in the clothing market(shitty chemicals), ikea furniture, low quality of many software products, many electronic components(micro controllers), etc. Exploitation and power imbalances - Besides state protection - that's relatively hard to get, for many jobs, employers have most of the power and they behave accordingly. suicides in Apple factories(again it would matter to Apple almost at all if employees had reasonable conditions) or the story from Israel is one among many. Are you Israeli BTW?
- edanm 11y ago
  Thanks for the citation! Yes, I am Israeli.