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Yet another reason to hate the San Francisco City Government -- they killed DriveNow SF by refusing to issue a (fairly common in most cities) bulk parking permi

by rdl 11y ago

Yet another reason to hate the San Francisco City Government -- they killed DriveNow SF by refusing to issue a (fairly common in most cities) bulk parking permit to BMW DriveNow (basically, all the cars would be bundled into one account and would pay parking tolls collectively -- either based on estimated usage or observed usage.)

wpietri 11y ago
Given that San Francisco's parking situation is not like most cities, what makes you think this was a mistake? As opposed to a reasonable choice you just happen to disagree with. As far as I can tell, they were asking for permission to park anywhere. Maybe there's a general-case problem there to solve for, but I'm not sure why "by-the-minute car rental for rich people" is a pressing problem for the city government to solve given the long list of other possible priorities. The city has certainly been very supportive of car sharing in general; I've been a user in SF for more than a decade and the city has done a lot to push it forward.
- Retric 11y ago
  Care sharing reduces demand for parking spaces and promote public transit which is generally considered a good thing.
  - mikeyouse 11y ago
    And San Francisco has upwards of 1,000 on-street car sharing parking spots all over the city; http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Car-sharing-firms-getting-900-S-F-street-parking-5387271.php http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Car-sharing-firms-gett...
    - ajju 11y ago
      Unfortunately these spots are currently allocated to services that almost entirely do A -> A carsharing, meaning you have to return the car where you picked it up. This all but eliminates the possibility that users can use these services for short trips with long stops (e.g. going to work, going for a shopping expedition that will take some time etc) because it is cost prohibitive. Having met the SF leadership I know they are working on this, and it's a difficult political issue, but I hope San Francisco can allocate more on-street parking to free floating carsharing.

by rdl 11y ago

wpietri 11y ago

Given that San Francisco's parking situation is not like most cities, what makes you think this was a mistake? As opposed to a reasonable choice you just happen to disagree with. As far as I can tell, they were asking for permission to park anywhere. Maybe there's a general-case problem there to solve for, but I'm not sure why "by-the-minute car rental for rich people" is a pressing problem for the city government to solve given the long list of other possible priorities. The city has certainly been very supportive of car sharing in general; I've been a user in SF for more than a decade and the city has done a lot to push it forward.

Retric 11y ago
Care sharing reduces demand for parking spaces and promote public transit which is generally considered a good thing.
- mikeyouse 11y ago
  And San Francisco has upwards of 1,000 on-street car sharing parking spots all over the city; http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Car-sharing-firms-getting-900-S-F-street-parking-5387271.php http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Car-sharing-firms-gett...
  - ajju 11y ago
    Unfortunately these spots are currently allocated to services that almost entirely do A -> A carsharing, meaning you have to return the car where you picked it up. This all but eliminates the possibility that users can use these services for short trips with long stops (e.g. going to work, going for a shopping expedition that will take some time etc) because it is cost prohibitive. Having met the SF leadership I know they are working on this, and it's a difficult political issue, but I hope San Francisco can allocate more on-street parking to free floating carsharing.