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The same is true for notebooks too. Compare the top models of the Dell XPS 15 [0] with the 15" Macbook Pro (Retina) ranges [1]: 6th generation Quad-core i7 vs

The same is true for notebooks too. Compare the top models of the Dell XPS 15 [0] with the 15" Macbook Pro (Retina) ranges [1]: 6th generation Quad-core i7 vs 5th generation Quad-core i7 32GB DDR4 vs 16GB DDR3 GTX 960M vs R9 M370X 3840x2160 4K display vs 2880x1800 'Retina' display Thunderbolt 3 vs Thunderbolt 2 Both 1TB SSD 1.78kg vs 2.04kg $3049 vs $3199 It's kind of sad that a few years ago Apple was the one leading notebook technology, but now they are just playing catch up and don't even seem to be trying. [0] http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-15-9550-laptop/pd?oc=cax15w10s1631&model_id=xps-15-9550-laptop http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-15-9550-laptop/pd?oc=c... [1] http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLT2LL/A&step=config# http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLT2L...

dpark 11y ago
That's a pretty different comparison. The current-generation Retina Macbook Pro was released almost exactly a year ago. It's due for a refresh. The XPS 15 you're linking was released in October and likely won't be refreshed again for another 6 months. The Dell might well be the better of the two, but you would expect that since it's a recent release. It's not as if the MacBook Pro Retina has languished for years, though.
eludwig 11y ago
I think it's worth mentioning that Windows really still isn't ready for "retina" prime time. Setting a > 100% scaling results in all kinds of GUI horror all over the place, especially in 3rd party apps. Things are better now than they were 2 years ago, true, but still not a good situation. On the other hand, there is pretty much no problem anywhere on the Mac. Apple just handled it. Pretty much all 3rd party apps were updated within a few months and most just "worked" without modification. A remarkable feat, at least to me. The Mac is still the only way to go if you want a 100% retina desktop experience without glitches. That said, I have no clue if linux is better in this regard. So I guess my point is that the 4K on a Windows laptop is largely wasted. The GPU is not up to driving it for games and the GUI is not up to driving it for daily use. A shame, truly. Disclaimer: I have a 2013 MacPro (with 2 4K Dell monitors) and love it. I use it for Photoshop and software dev.
- Amezarak 11y ago
  I have 150% scaling on Windows 10 and I haven't noticed anything strange.

dpark 11y ago

That's a pretty different comparison. The current-generation Retina Macbook Pro was released almost exactly a year ago. It's due for a refresh. The XPS 15 you're linking was released in October and likely won't be refreshed again for another 6 months. The Dell might well be the better of the two, but you would expect that since it's a recent release. It's not as if the MacBook Pro Retina has languished for years, though.

eludwig 11y ago

I think it's worth mentioning that Windows really still isn't ready for "retina" prime time. Setting a > 100% scaling results in all kinds of GUI horror all over the place, especially in 3rd party apps. Things are better now than they were 2 years ago, true, but still not a good situation. On the other hand, there is pretty much no problem anywhere on the Mac. Apple just handled it. Pretty much all 3rd party apps were updated within a few months and most just "worked" without modification. A remarkable feat, at least to me. The Mac is still the only way to go if you want a 100% retina desktop experience without glitches. That said, I have no clue if linux is better in this regard. So I guess my point is that the 4K on a Windows laptop is largely wasted. The GPU is not up to driving it for games and the GUI is not up to driving it for daily use. A shame, truly. Disclaimer: I have a 2013 MacPro (with 2 4K Dell monitors) and love it. I use it for Photoshop and software dev.

Amezarak 11y ago
I have 150% scaling on Windows 10 and I haven't noticed anything strange.