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Indeed. It's good that these guys are white-hats because they could have made a killing selling to spammers (for as long as they could go undetected, which coul
by gboudrias 11y ago
Indeed. It's good that these guys are white-hats because they could have made a killing selling to spammers (for as long as they could go undetected, which could've been a while).
- tyingq 11y ago"This work was supported by the NSF under grant CNS-13-18415" I think that means you might be able to get source code via FOIA or similar :)
- etrain 11y agoGoing rate for humans breaking captchas is like $1/1000 captchas solved. A fully automated service could make some money, sure, but not exactly a killing.
- seanp2k2 11y agoYeah; that's the problem...you can make, with tons of effort, a fairly decent system to tell robots and humans apart, but it's much much more difficult to tell humans trying to do the thing directly from those solving the challenge remotely. It's an arms race of economics; the challenge has to be difficult enough that it slows down humans in sweatshops to the point where it makes the whole enterprise not worthwhile for the abusers while not pissing off your actual users. It also has to resist automated malicious use. Quite a tall order. The best I've seen are the "which of these photos show mountains"-type challenges. I'd imagine that solving 5 rounds of those would take too long to make it worthwhile for spammers, but I'd also imagine lots of legitimate users getting irked at going through that to fill out a form.
- totony 11y agoFrom paper, "Assuming a selling price of $2 per 1,000 solved captchas, our token harvesting attack could accrue $104 - $110 daily, per host (i.e., IP address). By leveraging proxy services and running multiple attacks in parallel, this amount could be significantly higher for a single machine."