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So the choice is between Putin's favorite Trump and now apparently Clinton as well? Though Bernie would probably practice appeasement toward Putin too. Can't yo

by Grue3 11y ago

So the choice is between Putin's favorite Trump and now apparently Clinton as well? Though Bernie would probably practice appeasement toward Putin too. Can't you Americans elect a strong leader for once?

krapp 11y ago
You want another Bush? We have another Bush.
- Grue3 11y ago
  He dropped out unfortunately. You guys may hate GWB, but he sure kept Putin in check. I think he used to call him something like "pooty-poo", in person!
  - salgernon 11y ago
    "I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul. He's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country and I appreciate very much the frank dialogue and that's the beginning of a very constructive relationship," Bush said.
    - logicallee 11y ago
      You need to add your analysis when you quote political statements to make your point... I have no idea how you read that exactly.
  - vkou 11y ago
    A collapsed economy kept Putin 'in check'. Oh, and have you forgotten about the Russian-Georgian conflict over South Ossetia? [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War That one was on Dubya's watch - whereby he proceeded to do nothing. It's pretty clear to everyone that Great Powers will do as they please in 'their' sphere of influence. If Canada and Mexico were on the verge of joining a military alliance with China, there would be Abrams tanks in Ottawa, and F-22s bringing democracy to Mexico City before the week would be out.
    - Grue3 11y ago
      Did Putin annex South Ossetia? He didn't. Georgia returned to status quo. The reaction of the West was completely different back then.
      - vkou 11y ago
        South Ossetia is for all intents and purposes, a vassal state. The distinction is academic. Georgia did not return to status quo - it lost territory. (If the NATO/UN position on this is to be believed) The reaction of the West was quite different - it largely sat back, and watched.

by Grue3 11y ago

krapp 11y ago

You want another Bush? We have another Bush.

Grue3 11y ago
He dropped out unfortunately. You guys may hate GWB, but he sure kept Putin in check. I think he used to call him something like "pooty-poo", in person!
- salgernon 11y ago
  "I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul. He's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country and I appreciate very much the frank dialogue and that's the beginning of a very constructive relationship," Bush said.
  - logicallee 11y ago
    You need to add your analysis when you quote political statements to make your point... I have no idea how you read that exactly.
- vkou 11y ago
  A collapsed economy kept Putin 'in check'. Oh, and have you forgotten about the Russian-Georgian conflict over South Ossetia? [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War That one was on Dubya's watch - whereby he proceeded to do nothing. It's pretty clear to everyone that Great Powers will do as they please in 'their' sphere of influence. If Canada and Mexico were on the verge of joining a military alliance with China, there would be Abrams tanks in Ottawa, and F-22s bringing democracy to Mexico City before the week would be out.
  - Grue3 11y ago
    Did Putin annex South Ossetia? He didn't. Georgia returned to status quo. The reaction of the West was completely different back then.
    - vkou 11y ago
      South Ossetia is for all intents and purposes, a vassal state. The distinction is academic. Georgia did not return to status quo - it lost territory. (If the NATO/UN position on this is to be believed) The reaction of the West was quite different - it largely sat back, and watched.