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True, but the point of the Apple store is to sell Apple products, and the Google Play store only sells google devices. Amazon supposedly sells everything. It wa

by kdamken 11y ago

True, but the point of the Apple store is to sell Apple products, and the Google Play store only sells google devices. Amazon supposedly sells everything. It wasn't created to only sell Amazon products, and it's misleading to consumers to not be more open about that. Case in point - they sell iPads. Why don't they just sell Kindles? The inconsistency comes off as sleezy.

giarc 11y ago
Apple sells many products that are not owned by Apple. I can buy headphones by Bose, RHA, BlueAnt, Beats (were on store prior to Apple purchase). Amazon gets the criticism but they all do it. Remember, we had a store that was willing to sell all these products, it's called Best Buy and it's on the way out. As consumers we choose to boost Amazon into the leading online position.
- kdamken 11y ago
  True - but most of those products support or interact with the core apple products. Amazon offers way more things, like toilet paper and cat food. I'm not sure how they're supposed to interact with a Kindle.
- cstejerean 11y ago
  Yes, Apple also sells premium accessories for their devices including headphones, cases, backpacks, other hardware accessories and even 3rd party software for their devices. They are not a general purpose store. Amazon is, or at least pretends to be.
  - giarc 11y ago
    So you are saying that if you are a general purpose store, you have to offer products from your competitors. Walmart should sell Target brand products, Home Depot should sell Lowes brand products. See my point? Stores just aren't in the business of selling their competitors products.
    - stormbrew 11y ago
      Store brands are not usually made available through general supply chains (or rather, they come from a shortened supply chain), apple and google devices are. And Walmart does sell its "competitor's" products alongside their store brands (where they are available), as does Target, Home Depot, and Lowes. This is because their main business is selling things and having a store brand is just a means to squeek a little more margin out of the things they sell anyways. Obviously a store is under no obligation to carry every product ever, but this argument that an apple or android tablet is equivalent to a store brand is just silly.
      - giarc 11y ago
        How is an Apple iPhone not equivalent to a Walmart Basics pack of toilet paper? Apple makes the iPhone, Walmart makes the toilet paper. Or atleast companies build these products for their associated brands. I also ask you to provide an example of where Walmart sells competitor branded products (Target etc). Walmart's brand products, Basics (I believe) are not sold in any other store. Targets brand products (Archer Farms) are not available in any other store.
    - ikeboy 11y ago
      The problem isn't that they aren't selling it themselves, it's that they aren't letting marketplace sellers sell it. It's like if eBay banned Kindle sales.
  - knowaveragejoe 11y ago
    Absent the select few exceptions, Amazon is a general purpose store. If we're really going to be picky, Apple(and Google) sell products through their store that are "general purpose".
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- umanwizard 11y ago
  "We" made that choice before Amazon started banning competitors' products. That's a recent change.
  - giarc 11y ago
    Has Amazon ever sold new iPhones? Have they ever sold a Nexus phone?
    - umanwizard 11y ago
      http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Unlocked-Cellphone-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00R1984DI http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Unlocked-Cellphone-Discontinu...
      - giarc 11y ago
        >(Discontinued by Manufacturer) Selling surplus stock.
res0nat0r 11y ago
It's not sleazy, it's smart business. Amazon doesn't sell guns either, and they technically could probably do so if they setup the proper infrastructure and background checks and whatever else to do so. Just because they are Wal-Mart of the online world doesn't mean they must sell everything everyone wants. The devices they don't sell are in a heavily contested field, no wonder they don't carry them, that's smart business. It's a bit silly to get self-righteous about it otherwise.
- DamnYuppie 11y ago
  They wouldn't have to do the back ground checks. The Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) they ship it to would take care of doing that. In case people are unaware you can't sell a firearm to someone outside your own state without transferring it through an FFL. They simply don't do it because they bow to liberal suck ups, down-vote away!
  - DiabloD3 11y ago
    Okay.
- daveFNbuck 11y ago
  They do sell streaming devices, though. They just don't sell the ones made by their competitors. Using their position as #1 online retailer to bolster their position as a streaming service is more than just smart business. It's life if Microsoft had used its market position with Windows to push IE.

by kdamken 11y ago

giarc 11y ago

Apple sells many products that are not owned by Apple. I can buy headphones by Bose, RHA, BlueAnt, Beats (were on store prior to Apple purchase). Amazon gets the criticism but they all do it. Remember, we had a store that was willing to sell all these products, it's called Best Buy and it's on the way out. As consumers we choose to boost Amazon into the leading online position.

kdamken 11y ago
True - but most of those products support or interact with the core apple products. Amazon offers way more things, like toilet paper and cat food. I'm not sure how they're supposed to interact with a Kindle.
cstejerean 11y ago
Yes, Apple also sells premium accessories for their devices including headphones, cases, backpacks, other hardware accessories and even 3rd party software for their devices. They are not a general purpose store. Amazon is, or at least pretends to be.
- giarc 11y ago
  So you are saying that if you are a general purpose store, you have to offer products from your competitors. Walmart should sell Target brand products, Home Depot should sell Lowes brand products. See my point? Stores just aren't in the business of selling their competitors products.
  - stormbrew 11y ago
    Store brands are not usually made available through general supply chains (or rather, they come from a shortened supply chain), apple and google devices are. And Walmart does sell its "competitor's" products alongside their store brands (where they are available), as does Target, Home Depot, and Lowes. This is because their main business is selling things and having a store brand is just a means to squeek a little more margin out of the things they sell anyways. Obviously a store is under no obligation to carry every product ever, but this argument that an apple or android tablet is equivalent to a store brand is just silly.
    - giarc 11y ago
      How is an Apple iPhone not equivalent to a Walmart Basics pack of toilet paper? Apple makes the iPhone, Walmart makes the toilet paper. Or atleast companies build these products for their associated brands. I also ask you to provide an example of where Walmart sells competitor branded products (Target etc). Walmart's brand products, Basics (I believe) are not sold in any other store. Targets brand products (Archer Farms) are not available in any other store.
  - ikeboy 11y ago
    The problem isn't that they aren't selling it themselves, it's that they aren't letting marketplace sellers sell it. It's like if eBay banned Kindle sales.
- knowaveragejoe 11y ago
  Absent the select few exceptions, Amazon is a general purpose store. If we're really going to be picky, Apple(and Google) sell products through their store that are "general purpose".
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umanwizard 11y ago
"We" made that choice before Amazon started banning competitors' products. That's a recent change.
- giarc 11y ago
  Has Amazon ever sold new iPhones? Have they ever sold a Nexus phone?
  - umanwizard 11y ago
    http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Unlocked-Cellphone-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00R1984DI http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Unlocked-Cellphone-Discontinu...
    - giarc 11y ago
      >(Discontinued by Manufacturer) Selling surplus stock.

res0nat0r 11y ago

It's not sleazy, it's smart business. Amazon doesn't sell guns either, and they technically could probably do so if they setup the proper infrastructure and background checks and whatever else to do so. Just because they are Wal-Mart of the online world doesn't mean they must sell everything everyone wants. The devices they don't sell are in a heavily contested field, no wonder they don't carry them, that's smart business. It's a bit silly to get self-righteous about it otherwise.

DamnYuppie 11y ago
They wouldn't have to do the back ground checks. The Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) they ship it to would take care of doing that. In case people are unaware you can't sell a firearm to someone outside your own state without transferring it through an FFL. They simply don't do it because they bow to liberal suck ups, down-vote away!
- DiabloD3 11y ago
  Okay.
daveFNbuck 11y ago
They do sell streaming devices, though. They just don't sell the ones made by their competitors. Using their position as #1 online retailer to bolster their position as a streaming service is more than just smart business. It's life if Microsoft had used its market position with Windows to push IE.