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Close borders. Country itself is the jail.

• ptaipale 11y ago
  Is that "close" as in an imperative ("close those Hungarians inside their borders") or as in a description that borders are "closed" ("the Hungarians have closed their borders")? I have seen a lot of Orban-bashing because he wants does not accept the uncontrolled immigration policies of EU (of people from outside EU, particularly Middle East) but there the "borders are closed" is for outsiders coming in, not for Hungarians leaving (which would actually make the country a jail). Two very different things. Right to emigrate out of a country is a fundamental human right, right to immigrate in to a particular country is not. People who advocate for the latter tend to (intentionally) confuse it with the former.
  • boredpudding 11y ago
    I mean the first. If you want to jail everybody using encryption, you have to jail everybody. So, the best action for that is to close the borders so the Hungarians can't leave. It is a ridiculous solution for a ridiculous plan. > Right to emigrate out of a country is a fundamental human right Not if you're in jail.
    • ptaipale 11y ago
      Yes, obviously; being in jail means that some fundamental human rights (right of free movement) are removed. However, which do you mean, that others should lock Hungarians in a country-wide jail as a retaliation for having elected a leader you don't like, or that Hungarians themselves should do it for some reason even if they don't want to?
      • boredpudding 10y ago
        I mean: If Hungary wants to jail everybody who uses encryption, and everybody uses encryption, it's "more efficient" to make the country itself the jail, because that many Hungarians don't fit inside the jails. It's a joke.