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They actually get a decent amount of information, the shortest time frame would be a few days, usually a week or more. A sample of information, just what I rem

They actually get a decent amount of information, the shortest time frame would be a few days, usually a week or more. A sample of information, just what I remember, I'm not looking at the list. Name age education limited previous legal experiences Address Employer and length of time with employer members of household with relation and age Criminal history, down to parking records, doesn't come with the juror info sheet, but is usually easily accessible by attorneys. Even simple things that can be grabbed from facebook/twitter/anything would be useful. Often the halo effect or a person trying to get out of jury duty cause some degree of deception. Anything that can verify what they said in court is valuable. A jury could consist of as few as 6 people, finding that one of them is biased against you and you can strike them is great. The smallest thing can mean a great deal. Say under their favorite books they list civil disobedience, you could easily strike them from a case where one side may be some sort of conscientious objector. True, if there are millions on the line the attorney would probably hire a consultant, but in that case I think a consultants job would still be easier with my tool than without it and should result in a sale for me, just from the consultant instead of the attorney. As far as market, not much like this exists, but it is being asked for. There are roughly 80,000 trials per year in the US, a prosecution and defense for each, so 160,000 opportunities. This also makes it such that there are 800,000 potential jurors per year. Some pricing structures I think are reasonable could result in a revenue of under one billion per year. I'll be honest I've not talked with many people, > 10, but the reactions I received from those I've talked to has convinced me. I've talked to a few civil and criminal lawyers, both public servants and private firms and the feedback is usually ecstatic. "incredible value" might be my words, but "invaluable" was what one lawyer kept saying. Further validation comes from a rudimentary and necessary building block of this, note taking electronically during jury selection, is immature to the point it almost doesn't exist was something I was approached by attorneys to create. The data mining and giving suggestions just seemed like a natural evolution, which so far has been received well. I know I won't be able to provide everything on every potential juror, but if I'm consistently striking one I'm showing value. And with a pool of > 200 people I'm sure there's someone that I can dig up dirt on.

ratliffchrisb 10y ago
Some added notes. Attorneys already look up juror's facebooks/twitters/etc if they can. I would just be helping them use that data. I would try to automate as much as possible, but even if I can't there is still plenty of data to look at. Also, I've not really explored this avenue much, but any information brought up in this investigation or given to attorneys becomes a matter of public record. It seems like there would be a great deal you could do with that, but I'm not really into the personal data selling thing.
CyberFonic 10y ago
The numbers you present do not make sense. 80,000 trials would mean 960,000 jurors selected, which would suggest at least 2M potential jurors. So how how does that mean $1B? In the early days, you would be lucky to get 1%-2% of the trials. Realistically, you might need to create a MVP with lots of manual processing to test the market. Or, find a VC who will believe your projections.
- ratliffchrisb 10y ago
  You're right, I left off a zero, 8 million people report for jury duty a year. Each potential juror is often researched by more than 4 attorneys. At $25 per juror researched you end up around a billion dollars. $25 per juror is what many attorneys pay for a criminal record check already, so this is a pricing model they are familiar with and I think if the product provides as much information as I believe it can the value could meet or exceed the value of a criminal check. A criminal record might be more indicative of a bad juror, but so few people have them compared to the number of people with other data sources I think the expected value of information evens out. And this is just the States, there are other countries that use similar systems for jury selection. I agree I won't make that until there is a mature product, but the question was addressable market, not expected year 1 revenue. The mvp I'm working on now allows the sharing of information about jurors. This should allow me to gather data on how jurors vote tat can be marketed while still making profit off the sharing app alone.
  - CyberFonic 10y ago

ratliffchrisb 10y ago

Some added notes. Attorneys already look up juror's facebooks/twitters/etc if they can. I would just be helping them use that data. I would try to automate as much as possible, but even if I can't there is still plenty of data to look at. Also, I've not really explored this avenue much, but any information brought up in this investigation or given to attorneys becomes a matter of public record. It seems like there would be a great deal you could do with that, but I'm not really into the personal data selling thing.

CyberFonic 10y ago

The numbers you present do not make sense. 80,000 trials would mean 960,000 jurors selected, which would suggest at least 2M potential jurors. So how how does that mean $1B? In the early days, you would be lucky to get 1%-2% of the trials. Realistically, you might need to create a MVP with lots of manual processing to test the market. Or, find a VC who will believe your projections.

ratliffchrisb 10y ago
You're right, I left off a zero, 8 million people report for jury duty a year. Each potential juror is often researched by more than 4 attorneys. At $25 per juror researched you end up around a billion dollars. $25 per juror is what many attorneys pay for a criminal record check already, so this is a pricing model they are familiar with and I think if the product provides as much information as I believe it can the value could meet or exceed the value of a criminal check. A criminal record might be more indicative of a bad juror, but so few people have them compared to the number of people with other data sources I think the expected value of information evens out. And this is just the States, there are other countries that use similar systems for jury selection. I agree I won't make that until there is a mature product, but the question was addressable market, not expected year 1 revenue. The mvp I'm working on now allows the sharing of information about jurors. This should allow me to gather data on how jurors vote tat can be marketed while still making profit off the sharing app alone.
- CyberFonic 10y ago