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Agreed. After seeing cars rooted and controlled remotely I'd rather have a car with no software at all. It's time for a new Luddism.

outworlder 11y ago
You'll have to get carburetors back to do so, though.
- bigiain 11y ago
  I just bought myself a motor cycle a week or two back which runs just fine with a completely dead battery (I need to roll start it, but its a 125cc two stroke so that's _super_ easy...). The indicators don't blink with the dead battery (they just sort of light up), and the headlights are very dim, but it ran just fine for ~450km like that last Sunday...
GunboatDiplomat 11y ago
Well, cars whose computers are not linked to a network.
kbhn 11y ago
Among the many reasons why I drive stick, this ranks near the top. The clutch serves as a wonderful dead man's switch.
- passivepinetree 11y ago
  I'd be willing to bet a significant percentage of HN's readers drive stick.
  - alanfalcon 11y ago
    For the GP's reasons? I'd be curious what percentage here do drive stick. I never learned to drive manual. I'm ready to play on my iPhone while my Auto drives me to/from work daily.
  - r00fus 11y ago
    Except for those of us who drive hybrid eCVTs or electric. Owning an automatic was one of the most expensive decisions of my life... One I wouldn't repeat if I could avoid it.
    - pitay 11y ago
      Just curious as to why owning an automatic was one of the most expensive decisions of your life? Just for reference I own an automatic and I'm quite happy with it.
    - TeMPOraL 11y ago
      Pure electrics don't have gearboxes...
  - 13of40 11y ago
    > I'd be willing to bet a significant percentage of HN's readers drive stick. Is that because they have any technical comprehension of it or because they want everyone else to swoon?
- SixSigma 11y ago
  Your brakes are many times more powerful than your engine too.
  - kbhn 11y ago
    I agree, however depending on your make/model your brakes can be disabled electronically as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake-by-wire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake-by-wire

outworlder 11y ago

You'll have to get carburetors back to do so, though.

bigiain 11y ago
I just bought myself a motor cycle a week or two back which runs just fine with a completely dead battery (I need to roll start it, but its a 125cc two stroke so that's _super_ easy...). The indicators don't blink with the dead battery (they just sort of light up), and the headlights are very dim, but it ran just fine for ~450km like that last Sunday...

GunboatDiplomat 11y ago

Well, cars whose computers are not linked to a network.

kbhn 11y ago

Among the many reasons why I drive stick, this ranks near the top. The clutch serves as a wonderful dead man's switch.

passivepinetree 11y ago
I'd be willing to bet a significant percentage of HN's readers drive stick.
- alanfalcon 11y ago
  For the GP's reasons? I'd be curious what percentage here do drive stick. I never learned to drive manual. I'm ready to play on my iPhone while my Auto drives me to/from work daily.
- r00fus 11y ago
  Except for those of us who drive hybrid eCVTs or electric. Owning an automatic was one of the most expensive decisions of my life... One I wouldn't repeat if I could avoid it.
  - pitay 11y ago
    Just curious as to why owning an automatic was one of the most expensive decisions of your life? Just for reference I own an automatic and I'm quite happy with it.
  - TeMPOraL 11y ago
    Pure electrics don't have gearboxes...
- 13of40 11y ago
  > I'd be willing to bet a significant percentage of HN's readers drive stick. Is that because they have any technical comprehension of it or because they want everyone else to swoon?
SixSigma 11y ago
Your brakes are many times more powerful than your engine too.
- kbhn 11y ago
  I agree, however depending on your make/model your brakes can be disabled electronically as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake-by-wire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake-by-wire