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I'd love to have a debate with you offline about this. I think I've already gotten a little more political than appropriate for this community, and if not my re

by Gratsby 11y ago

I'd love to have a debate with you offline about this. I think I've already gotten a little more political than appropriate for this community, and if not my response to this most certainly would be. I will only say that if you are tired of fighting for scraps - change your perspective, work your ass off, and earn yourself a bigger slice of pie. This is the United States of America. Everything is possible.

FussyZeus 11y ago
I won't get into the politics further, but can I say it's amazing to me that Internet Economists always assume that the people complaining about the lack of economic opportunity in the U.S. both A) are not working hard enough to deserve it and B) are unhappy with their current economic state. For the record, I'm perfectly happy. I'd obviously enjoy a raise, but I don't need it, I have food on my table and an excellent lifestyle. The fact that I can appreciate that while saying, hey, maybe we should spread the prosperity around a little are not mutually exclusive and should be doable by any human being with empathy.
goldbrick 11y ago
Preposterous. It might work for you, and it might even work for FuzzyZeus, but it's quite clearly impossible for everyone to "earn" themselves a bigger piece of pie.
- FussyZeus 11y ago
  I have worked pretty damn hard to get where I am, but it occurs to me more and more that there's no good explanation that in a country as wealthy as ours that you need to work yourself to the bone just to get a moderately good lifestyle. And then we brag about the fact that we worked 2 jobs through college or whatever like it's some kind of badge of honor to be a voluntary slave for a few years. I'm not saying a Cadillac in every driveway, and there should definitely be reward for those willing to put in the extra hours and what have you, but you shouldn't need to put in extra hours just to claw your way to what would be considered a basic American lifestyle. I think that's silly.

by Gratsby 11y ago

FussyZeus 11y ago

I won't get into the politics further, but can I say it's amazing to me that Internet Economists always assume that the people complaining about the lack of economic opportunity in the U.S. both A) are not working hard enough to deserve it and B) are unhappy with their current economic state. For the record, I'm perfectly happy. I'd obviously enjoy a raise, but I don't need it, I have food on my table and an excellent lifestyle. The fact that I can appreciate that while saying, hey, maybe we should spread the prosperity around a little are not mutually exclusive and should be doable by any human being with empathy.

goldbrick 11y ago

Preposterous. It might work for you, and it might even work for FuzzyZeus, but it's quite clearly impossible for everyone to "earn" themselves a bigger piece of pie.

FussyZeus 11y ago
I have worked pretty damn hard to get where I am, but it occurs to me more and more that there's no good explanation that in a country as wealthy as ours that you need to work yourself to the bone just to get a moderately good lifestyle. And then we brag about the fact that we worked 2 jobs through college or whatever like it's some kind of badge of honor to be a voluntary slave for a few years. I'm not saying a Cadillac in every driveway, and there should definitely be reward for those willing to put in the extra hours and what have you, but you shouldn't need to put in extra hours just to claw your way to what would be considered a basic American lifestyle. I think that's silly.