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Their concerns seem grounded in reality, as Germany does censor Reddit[1]. 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/ChillingEffects/comments/3gw9g1/20150813_ip_blocks/ http
by chroma 11y ago
Their concerns seem grounded in reality, as Germany does censor Reddit[1].
1. https://www.reddit.com/r/ChillingEffects/comments/3gw9g1/20150813_ip_blocks/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ChillingEffects/comments/3gw9g1/201...
- fwn 11y agoHmm, works for me. But fair enough, I see the point. Reddit (as a page) is still up and running for everyone. I can't see how an app would be more controversial.
- germanier 11y agoTo make this clear: Nobody in Germany requested a takedown of that subreddit. A German agency (BPJM) sent Reddit a letter with a few questions about that subreddit. Reddit then blocked the site for German IPs but it was not requested to do so. The BPJM does not have authority to block foreign websites. They do maintain a (non-public) list of websites deemed harmful to the youth which e.g Google uses to not show certain sites to German users. They planned to add that subreddit to this list. That's quite far from censoring but rather Reddit censoring itself.
- girvo 11y ago> That's quite far from censoring but rather Reddit censoring itself. While you're completely correct, and this case is exactly that, the end result is the same isn't it?
- germanier 11y agoThey can hardly argue legal compliance as a reason, when they go beyond what's legally required of them.
- kuschku 11y agoNot really, because reddit had a choice not to censor itself. The result would have been that /r/watchpeopledie would be not findable in German Google with safe search on, and that it would be blocked in all schools, and if you install a family blocker software at home.
- Lawtonfogle 11y agoReddit really has a really hard to follow rule as to what content is or isn't allowed.
- germanier 11y agoThe point here is that the subreddit works fine almost everywhere in the world. Just if you try accessing it with a German IP Reddit voluntarily decided not to return content.
- Lawtonfogle 11y agoI was thinking more along the lines of what subreddits they still allow and what subreddits have been banned (or at least 'encouraged' to go private).
- germanier 11y agoI'm not sure but I thought that Google doesn't show websites listed in the BPJM-Modul at all in Germany, even with safe search off. Does anyone know whether this is documented somewhere?
- kuschku 11y agoI’m not sure either, but I know that legally, they can show that stuff.