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Countries can lean on Google and Apple and say "Get this app out of my country." We are rolling out one by one so that we can stay on top of the content reports

Countries can lean on Google and Apple and say "Get this app out of my country." We are rolling out one by one so that we can stay on top of the content reports. Reddit has a lot of potentially controversial content and countries have various levels of sensitivity to that. It would be counter productive to go global now, get banned in a bunch of places, and then have to fight protracted battles in a bunch of different places to get back into those stores. See: Secret in Brazil.

Mithaldu 11y ago
Thanks for the details on why you're doing it slowly. Can you please also explain why you did not do either of the things i mentioned here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11447494 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11447494 Or maybe say whether you even plan to do any of them. It's easy to go "yeah they're just self-focused", but it would be nice to know what the actual process was.
jbob2000 11y ago
This doesn't make any sense. If they would ban the app, wouldn't they also ban the website? Secret is a different case, the purpose of the app is to anonymous communication, I can see why Brazil has a problem with it (mass protests recently, protestors probably using secret, amongst other things)
- zamalek 11y ago
  Exactly, so far as I know Reddit already responsibly complies with subpoenas. Secret is designed to defeat that process and is completely unlike Reddit.
- izacus 11y ago
  Not to mention other apps are available worldwide.
- freehunter 10y ago
  Didn't Russia ban Reddit for some mushroom thing?
fwn 11y ago
Let's keep in mind that you also didn't release it in much more open countries than the UK or the US. If you worry that countries like Germany or Switzerland might censor you out of the market because of reddit controversities you'd probably overestimated reddits emotional potential.
- chroma 11y ago
  Their concerns seem grounded in reality, as Germany does censor Reddit[1]. 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/ChillingEffects/comments/3gw9g1/20150813_ip_blocks/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ChillingEffects/comments/3gw9g1/201...
  - fwn 11y ago
    Hmm, works for me. But fair enough, I see the point. Reddit (as a page) is still up and running for everyone. I can't see how an app would be more controversial.
  - germanier 11y ago
    To make this clear: Nobody in Germany requested a takedown of that subreddit. A German agency (BPJM) sent Reddit a letter with a few questions about that subreddit. Reddit then blocked the site for German IPs but it was not requested to do so. The BPJM does not have authority to block foreign websites. They do maintain a (non-public) list of websites deemed harmful to the youth which e.g Google uses to not show certain sites to German users. They planned to add that subreddit to this list. That's quite far from censoring but rather Reddit censoring itself.
    - girvo 10y ago
      > That's quite far from censoring but rather Reddit censoring itself. While you're completely correct, and this case is exactly that, the end result is the same isn't it?
      - germanier 10y ago
umanwizard 11y ago
You opened it in exactly the set of Anglo-Saxon countries (minus New Zealand). You're saying this was a coincidence?

Mithaldu 11y ago

Thanks for the details on why you're doing it slowly. Can you please also explain why you did not do either of the things i mentioned here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11447494 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11447494 Or maybe say whether you even plan to do any of them. It's easy to go "yeah they're just self-focused", but it would be nice to know what the actual process was.

jbob2000 11y ago

This doesn't make any sense. If they would ban the app, wouldn't they also ban the website? Secret is a different case, the purpose of the app is to anonymous communication, I can see why Brazil has a problem with it (mass protests recently, protestors probably using secret, amongst other things)

zamalek 11y ago
Exactly, so far as I know Reddit already responsibly complies with subpoenas. Secret is designed to defeat that process and is completely unlike Reddit.
izacus 11y ago
Not to mention other apps are available worldwide.
freehunter 10y ago
Didn't Russia ban Reddit for some mushroom thing?

fwn 11y ago

Let's keep in mind that you also didn't release it in much more open countries than the UK or the US. If you worry that countries like Germany or Switzerland might censor you out of the market because of reddit controversities you'd probably overestimated reddits emotional potential.

chroma 11y ago
Their concerns seem grounded in reality, as Germany does censor Reddit[1]. 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/ChillingEffects/comments/3gw9g1/20150813_ip_blocks/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ChillingEffects/comments/3gw9g1/201...
- fwn 11y ago
  Hmm, works for me. But fair enough, I see the point. Reddit (as a page) is still up and running for everyone. I can't see how an app would be more controversial.
- germanier 11y ago
  To make this clear: Nobody in Germany requested a takedown of that subreddit. A German agency (BPJM) sent Reddit a letter with a few questions about that subreddit. Reddit then blocked the site for German IPs but it was not requested to do so. The BPJM does not have authority to block foreign websites. They do maintain a (non-public) list of websites deemed harmful to the youth which e.g Google uses to not show certain sites to German users. They planned to add that subreddit to this list. That's quite far from censoring but rather Reddit censoring itself.
  - girvo 10y ago
    > That's quite far from censoring but rather Reddit censoring itself. While you're completely correct, and this case is exactly that, the end result is the same isn't it?
    - germanier 10y ago

umanwizard 11y ago

You opened it in exactly the set of Anglo-Saxon countries (minus New Zealand). You're saying this was a coincidence?