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I don't feel that this article has a point. For example if you don't like the ui of Facebook you will still use it because there is no alternative (yet). There

by edem 11y ago

I don't feel that this article has a point. For example if you don't like the ui of Facebook you will still use it because there is no alternative (yet). There are so many factors at play like lack of alternatives you don't take into account. I personally think that Craigslist for example is very well organized. Just because it is not material design it can be good.

coldtea 11y ago
>There are so many factors at play like lack of alternatives you don't take into account He already covers that, but it seems you didn't take that section of TFA into account. He says about how alternatives created to be more minimal, nicer to look etc. fail because they don't offer the same functionality, information density, etc. -- and how that is a necessary tradeoff.
collyw 11y ago
Sounds like the change from the old Google maps to the new ones where I can't find anything because it is all hidden away behind unintuitive humburger menus or something similar. Sure I get maybe 10% more screen space, but I have too Google how to send a link almost every time these days.
- d0m 11y ago
  Yeah, there are big problems with their UX. I don't think the problem is the "10% more space" or clean design, just bad decisions for simple UX concepts. I would expect something to be somewhere logically, but it's not. Or I would press back and go to a page I've never visited. Or I would want to go somewhere by walking, but they show me a car icon..?! oh wait, I need to press the car, then I can change it to walk. Why not show me an icon that say "Go There" if it's an abstraction for many moving types.
tim333 11y ago
>no alternative There is Ello which was a kind of anti-facebook pitched as a "simple, beautiful & ad-free social network.” Didn't do great though it's still there. http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-what-is-ello-20141010-story.html http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-what-is-...
scholia 11y ago
> so many factors at play like lack of alternatives you don't take into account It looks as though there are no real alternatives now but that wasn't the case when Facebook was starting out. It was much smaller than MySpace, and Google's Orkut got bigger faster, for example. Later, it had competition from many other rivals including Google+. There's only a "lack of alternatives" to Facebook's UI because Facebook already won all those battles.

by edem 11y ago

coldtea 11y ago

>There are so many factors at play like lack of alternatives you don't take into account He already covers that, but it seems you didn't take that section of TFA into account. He says about how alternatives created to be more minimal, nicer to look etc. fail because they don't offer the same functionality, information density, etc. -- and how that is a necessary tradeoff.

collyw 11y ago

Sounds like the change from the old Google maps to the new ones where I can't find anything because it is all hidden away behind unintuitive humburger menus or something similar. Sure I get maybe 10% more screen space, but I have too Google how to send a link almost every time these days.

d0m 11y ago
Yeah, there are big problems with their UX. I don't think the problem is the "10% more space" or clean design, just bad decisions for simple UX concepts. I would expect something to be somewhere logically, but it's not. Or I would press back and go to a page I've never visited. Or I would want to go somewhere by walking, but they show me a car icon..?! oh wait, I need to press the car, then I can change it to walk. Why not show me an icon that say "Go There" if it's an abstraction for many moving types.

tim333 11y ago

>no alternative There is Ello which was a kind of anti-facebook pitched as a "simple, beautiful & ad-free social network.” Didn't do great though it's still there. http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-what-is-ello-20141010-story.html http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-what-is-...

scholia 11y ago

> so many factors at play like lack of alternatives you don't take into account It looks as though there are no real alternatives now but that wasn't the case when Facebook was starting out. It was much smaller than MySpace, and Google's Orkut got bigger faster, for example. Later, it had competition from many other rivals including Google+. There's only a "lack of alternatives" to Facebook's UI because Facebook already won all those battles.