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Really? Nobody's done a full forensic recovery of some of the kid's hard-drives? Since it's a pretty good bet that at least one picture of a naked minor was cap

Really? Nobody's done a full forensic recovery of some of the kid's hard-drives? Since it's a pretty good bet that at least one picture of a naked minor was captured, the child porn cops should be all over the entire IT infrastructure of that school and all of the employees involved.

blhack 17y ago
Think about what would happen if I were to donate a pallet of laptops to my niece's school, and then one of the parents accused me of spying on their kids through the camera. My house would be raided by a SWAT team and everything electronic in it would be taken...TVs hard-drives, computers, computer monitors, networking equipment, routers, servers, camera equipment, everything. The fact that this isn't happening to the school administrators is hideous. Not only did they admit that what they're being accused of is possible, they demonstrated it!
- elblanco 17y ago
  They also allegedly put in place official policy designed explicitly to prevent students and parent from ensuring their safety and privacy. Disabling the camera was an offense punished by expulsion. To put that in perspective, I think most school districts punish students this way if they bring a loaded rifle to school.
  - markkanof 17y ago
    Can you point to documentation of this? It definitely sounds like something a school district would do. I am just asking because I have seen this stated in a bunch of hacker news comments, but haven't seen where this information came from.
    - elblanco 17y ago
      http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/spy-at-harrington-high.html http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/spy-at-harrington-high... I can't find the official school policy from the school. But I haven't found anything disputing this either.
rsheridan6 17y ago
It's also a good bet that billions of BOFH's sperm died horrible deaths in wads of kleenex while he was looking at them. Ugh. I can't believe how much balance they put in this article when there's no balance to be found. EDIT: not in the blog post but in one of the news articles it links.
- philk 17y ago
  That's a pretty nasty accusation to make without evidence.
  - rsheridan6 17y ago
    "It's a good bet" is not the same as an accusation. I wouldn't vote to convict him yet if I were on a jury and all I knew was what has been in the media, but if I had to bet $100 I know which bet has a higher expected value. Would you really bet the other way? The guy was surreptitiously taking pictures of teens in their bedrooms FFS. There's one thing we agree on - that's pretty nasty.
rdtsc 17y ago
When you think from the institutional point of view, this system of spying and control mirrors system of spying and control the government is using. I don't think there will be a well publicized smackdown, lest other citizens start questioning government's own spying and warrant-less wiretapping. Just so we don't forget, Obama voted to give telecoms, which handed our privacy to anyone who asked for it, immunity. http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/90990 Why are we so surprised when a school takes a cue from its "big brother" and starts spying on its students so blatantly? Obama "protects" us from "terrorism" by spying on us, and the school has to "protect" the students from "thieves" by spying on them, makes sense right?

blhack 17y ago

Think about what would happen if I were to donate a pallet of laptops to my niece's school, and then one of the parents accused me of spying on their kids through the camera. My house would be raided by a SWAT team and everything electronic in it would be taken...TVs hard-drives, computers, computer monitors, networking equipment, routers, servers, camera equipment, everything. The fact that this isn't happening to the school administrators is hideous. Not only did they admit that what they're being accused of is possible, they demonstrated it!

elblanco 17y ago
They also allegedly put in place official policy designed explicitly to prevent students and parent from ensuring their safety and privacy. Disabling the camera was an offense punished by expulsion. To put that in perspective, I think most school districts punish students this way if they bring a loaded rifle to school.
- markkanof 17y ago
  Can you point to documentation of this? It definitely sounds like something a school district would do. I am just asking because I have seen this stated in a bunch of hacker news comments, but haven't seen where this information came from.
  - elblanco 17y ago
    http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/spy-at-harrington-high.html http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/spy-at-harrington-high... I can't find the official school policy from the school. But I haven't found anything disputing this either.

rsheridan6 17y ago

It's also a good bet that billions of BOFH's sperm died horrible deaths in wads of kleenex while he was looking at them. Ugh. I can't believe how much balance they put in this article when there's no balance to be found. EDIT: not in the blog post but in one of the news articles it links.

philk 17y ago
That's a pretty nasty accusation to make without evidence.
- rsheridan6 17y ago
  "It's a good bet" is not the same as an accusation. I wouldn't vote to convict him yet if I were on a jury and all I knew was what has been in the media, but if I had to bet $100 I know which bet has a higher expected value. Would you really bet the other way? The guy was surreptitiously taking pictures of teens in their bedrooms FFS. There's one thing we agree on - that's pretty nasty.

rdtsc 17y ago

When you think from the institutional point of view, this system of spying and control mirrors system of spying and control the government is using. I don't think there will be a well publicized smackdown, lest other citizens start questioning government's own spying and warrant-less wiretapping. Just so we don't forget, Obama voted to give telecoms, which handed our privacy to anyone who asked for it, immunity. http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/90990 Why are we so surprised when a school takes a cue from its "big brother" and starts spying on its students so blatantly? Obama "protects" us from "terrorism" by spying on us, and the school has to "protect" the students from "thieves" by spying on them, makes sense right?