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Yup, same deal. The city dwellers always despise the rural folk they depend on.

by rgrieselhuber 11y ago

Terr_ 11y ago
I'd say that cuts both ways, as a latte-sipping godless liberal etc.
- protomyth 11y ago
  Yeah, but we don't control the media. There is not a national news station showing what's important to the middle states.
  - coldtea 11y ago
    There is a big one, called FOX.
    - protomyth 11y ago
      That would be the stereotypical wrong answer.
    - catawbasam 11y ago
      ummm... not really. Fox News Network, LLC 1211 Avenue Of The Americas New York, NY 10036
      - coldtea 11y ago
        That's its location. The question was whether there's a network "showing what's important to the middle states". (Which I interpret as "important related to their views on laws, life, politics, ethics, etc", not as "related to regional news").
    - amttc 11y ago
      The people who Fox News caters to the most are suburbanites. Most people way out here are lukewarm on Fox News. They're just... different. They agree with some things that I imagine would be popular in big coastal cities, but disagree with other things that might surprise you, so.
    - ArkyBeagle 11y ago
      FOX is targeted at McMansion owners.
  - gozur88 11y ago
    I noticed that, particularly about the New York Times. Periodically they'll have a piece about something in the South and it's always about the stereotypical slack-jawed yokel who's trying to marry his sister, or is living in a dirt hut but has 5000 guns, or a preacher who preaches black people are the descendants of Cain, or some such. It's like people in New York can't start their day without feeling superior to someone else.
tomc1985 11y ago
And country bumpkins despise townies... so everyone hates everyone! Let's just get that out there :)
- rgrieselhuber 11y ago
  Sure, but I'd wager that the rural folk would be fine if all the city dwellers disappeared, and that the opposite is not true.
  - zeveb 11y ago
    > Sure, but I'd wager that the rural folk would be fine if all the city dwellers disappeared, and that the opposite is not true. As much as I like rural folks and like to spend time with them (and despise folks who look down on them), the farmer is just as reliant on the financiers who ensure a steady cash flow for the multinational which delivers him his fertiliser, his fuel, the parts for his tractor, his clothes, his food &c. &c. &c. We're all interconnected.
  - coldtea 11y ago
    Food wise maybe. But do you think your medicine, qualified doctors, medical equipment, internet, computers you use, movies and tv series you watch, trucks you drive and tons of other things besides grow on trees? (Not to mention farming subsidies)
    - rgrieselhuber 11y ago
      Those things are all related to quality of life vs. life itself.
    - teacup50 11y ago
      Cities really, truly, do not have a monopoly on the production of those things.
      - coldtea 11y ago
        Cities really, truly, have historically predominantly invented, produced and designed those things (including designing and paying for the factories seemingly in the country). Not many medicine schools, pharma corps, research labs, car manufactures, tech companies, tv and movie studios, etc operating out of rural Idaho, or South Dakota, or Alabama, or what have you...
blakeyrat 11y ago
The only reason I even live within commuting distance of a large city is because that's where the only good-paying tech jobs are. If I had been a, say, banker or a mechanic or a plumber I'd be able to work in any town in the country, but no, dumb me had to become a computer programmer. If I could participate in this career/industry from a smaller town, you bet your butt I'd do it in a second.
- adambard 11y ago
  Do you realize that ours is one of the few jobs that can be conducted entirely remotely? Perhaps the remote-work train is destined to derail at some point in the future, but at the moment it's totally possible to find work that lets you live anywhere there's available internet.
  - gozur88 11y ago
    Is it really? I see this written on HN all the time, but of everyone I know who tried to find a remote job failed. The people who ended up working remotely are the ones who worked in the office for many years and gained the trust of their employer. Then when the family moved (usually due to a spouse changing jobs) the employer decided to let them work remotely rather than letting them go, at least in the near term.
    - adambard 11y ago
      > The people who ended up working remotely are the ones who worked in the office for many years and gained the trust of their employer. Well yes pretty much this. I worked for a year on-premises before switching to remote, and I can imagine it's harder to find remote work from the get-go.
      - ido 11y ago
        I've had many remote jobs (including current). Another option is to start as a (remote) freelancer / consultant and transition to normal full-time while remaining remote.

Yup, same deal. The city dwellers always despise the rural folk they depend on.

Terr_ 11y ago

I'd say that cuts both ways, as a latte-sipping godless liberal etc.

protomyth 11y ago
Yeah, but we don't control the media. There is not a national news station showing what's important to the middle states.
- coldtea 11y ago
  There is a big one, called FOX.
  - protomyth 11y ago
    That would be the stereotypical wrong answer.
  - catawbasam 11y ago
    ummm... not really. Fox News Network, LLC 1211 Avenue Of The Americas New York, NY 10036
    - coldtea 11y ago
      That's its location. The question was whether there's a network "showing what's important to the middle states". (Which I interpret as "important related to their views on laws, life, politics, ethics, etc", not as "related to regional news").
  - amttc 11y ago
    The people who Fox News caters to the most are suburbanites. Most people way out here are lukewarm on Fox News. They're just... different. They agree with some things that I imagine would be popular in big coastal cities, but disagree with other things that might surprise you, so.
  - ArkyBeagle 11y ago
    FOX is targeted at McMansion owners.
- gozur88 11y ago
  I noticed that, particularly about the New York Times. Periodically they'll have a piece about something in the South and it's always about the stereotypical slack-jawed yokel who's trying to marry his sister, or is living in a dirt hut but has 5000 guns, or a preacher who preaches black people are the descendants of Cain, or some such. It's like people in New York can't start their day without feeling superior to someone else.

tomc1985 11y ago

And country bumpkins despise townies... so everyone hates everyone! Let's just get that out there :)

rgrieselhuber 11y ago
Sure, but I'd wager that the rural folk would be fine if all the city dwellers disappeared, and that the opposite is not true.
- zeveb 11y ago
  > Sure, but I'd wager that the rural folk would be fine if all the city dwellers disappeared, and that the opposite is not true. As much as I like rural folks and like to spend time with them (and despise folks who look down on them), the farmer is just as reliant on the financiers who ensure a steady cash flow for the multinational which delivers him his fertiliser, his fuel, the parts for his tractor, his clothes, his food &c. &c. &c. We're all interconnected.
- coldtea 11y ago
  Food wise maybe. But do you think your medicine, qualified doctors, medical equipment, internet, computers you use, movies and tv series you watch, trucks you drive and tons of other things besides grow on trees? (Not to mention farming subsidies)
  - rgrieselhuber 11y ago
    Those things are all related to quality of life vs. life itself.
  - teacup50 11y ago
    Cities really, truly, do not have a monopoly on the production of those things.
    - coldtea 11y ago
      Cities really, truly, have historically predominantly invented, produced and designed those things (including designing and paying for the factories seemingly in the country). Not many medicine schools, pharma corps, research labs, car manufactures, tech companies, tv and movie studios, etc operating out of rural Idaho, or South Dakota, or Alabama, or what have you...

blakeyrat 11y ago

The only reason I even live within commuting distance of a large city is because that's where the only good-paying tech jobs are. If I had been a, say, banker or a mechanic or a plumber I'd be able to work in any town in the country, but no, dumb me had to become a computer programmer. If I could participate in this career/industry from a smaller town, you bet your butt I'd do it in a second.

adambard 11y ago
Do you realize that ours is one of the few jobs that can be conducted entirely remotely? Perhaps the remote-work train is destined to derail at some point in the future, but at the moment it's totally possible to find work that lets you live anywhere there's available internet.
- gozur88 11y ago
  Is it really? I see this written on HN all the time, but of everyone I know who tried to find a remote job failed. The people who ended up working remotely are the ones who worked in the office for many years and gained the trust of their employer. Then when the family moved (usually due to a spouse changing jobs) the employer decided to let them work remotely rather than letting them go, at least in the near term.
  - adambard 11y ago
    > The people who ended up working remotely are the ones who worked in the office for many years and gained the trust of their employer. Well yes pretty much this. I worked for a year on-premises before switching to remote, and I can imagine it's harder to find remote work from the get-go.
    - ido 11y ago
      I've had many remote jobs (including current). Another option is to start as a (remote) freelancer / consultant and transition to normal full-time while remaining remote.