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> The idea that "the Left" engages in "Orwellian double-think" with regards to class, is also pretty puzzling. Heard any jokes or insults about Southerners lat
by convexfunction 11y ago
> The idea that "the Left" engages in "Orwellian double-think" with regards to class, is also pretty puzzling.
Heard any jokes or insults about Southerners lately? "Trump voters"? Etc.
Which isn't to say that anyone who identifies with leftism is doomed to infinite self-deception with regard to social class, but, most people would benefit from some reflection on how they feel about which groups of people and why.
- RodericDay 11y ago"John Oliver"-left (which is to say, center), may be cracking low-quality Trump-voter jokes. "Jacobin Magazine"-left, which has a better claim to the mainstream title imo, is all about publicizing interesting and charitable analyses of the phenomenon. edit: Down-voted into a post-freeze (again). Reply: Yeah, it's a hairy topic. However, the author states that they had trouble finding left-leaning "books and other discussions [...] that really address that social classes are cultures", which honestly seems like they weren't trying very hard.
- convexfunction 11y agoYeah, the overloading on "left" is definitely an issue here. I agree the Jacobin types are much more likely to have some self-awareness here (though I've unfortunately met a cluster of counterexamples).