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This is already as it is now.

by cammil 11y ago

giancarlostoro 11y ago
I miss when pictures were meant for special moments / events, not for every single day.
- deleted 11y ago
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- tsylba 11y ago
  I feel I can relate to that, I'm still in my twenties and has recently begun to see in myself and some of my friends this eternal shift from youth to 'adulthood' (this words don't reflect my points accurately but I lack the proper ones right now), the loosing track of the dominant (sub)culture(s), the "it was best before" phenomenon. But this is completely subjective, maybe "old age" come from the tiredness to be always updated / on page with the current trends, happy with our past experiences and memories. Is there a best moment ? somewhere everything has to change and everything will change.
- marincounty 11y ago
  I hope I'm alive when it's not socially acceptable to take/post pictures, and post them online. I have taken photographs for years. I love getting the right shot. I love photography. I have tons on pictures of loved ones, and all my pets. Hate to call them pets--they are family members. That said, I don't post every one online. Maybe it me, but I don't like people who post every aspect of their life. I understand posting if your genuinely excited about something, or have the need to share something new. I just cringe when I see a upwardly mobile individual take another picture of the beautiful meal. It was cute at first, but we all know you will have another beautiful plate of food in the future? We all know you have good bone structure. We all know you have tons of friends. It seems like too many people are using the Internet to publicize, re-engineer how they want world to view them? In my twisted world, a person's stock goes up if I can't immediately figure them out with a simple google search. I do understand people who are lonely, or have low self-esteem. I understand the need to overcompensate for the perfection this society expects of us. Less has become more in a lot of sectors.
  - anexprogrammer 11y ago
    I totally agree with all of this. The cult of oversharing has devalued everything to the point of bankruptcy. Twenty years ago I didn't care what you had for dinner. Including a uncomposed phone pic of it doesn't mean I care now. Twenty once daily bad photos of your cat? No. The photos that I do care about - the well composed image from my semi-pro photographer friend, the photo of the meal celebrating your 20th anniversary or the photo of your animal companion doing something unusual are lost in the sea of mediocrity. I consistently took more pictures when I used a film SLR than I do now. I've almost completely stopped taking photos, and losing interest in photography. When we had film, we'd throw away the bad ones, and just keep the highlights. I'd take 36, and end up keeping just one. Now we take so many that we can't filter. But they're nearly all fit for the bin. Everyone now thinks they're a photographer though. Clearly they're not.
    - fluxquanta 11y ago
      I find these comments interesting, because I'm on the other end of the spectrum when it comes to photography -- I'm just now getting into it more than just casual phone photos. My father was a professional photographer back in the 70's. Not famous by any means, but a number of shots were published in magazines. He's getting up there in age. It feels like photography might be a way that I could connect with him a bit more since we're not super close, and I've been yearning to do something creative and artistic. So I decided to pick it up by purchasing a new DSLR and a few lenses. After refreshing my memory on ISO, aperture, shutter speed and taking a few hundred exposures I realized...photography is not easy. You can take thousands of photos and apply Instagram filters to them to your heart's content, but they just feel empty. So now I'm letting the camera collect a bit of dust while I read about theory and composition, and looking at others' photos to find out what makes them appealing (or not appealing).
      - asteadman 11y ago
        I'm just going to throw this out there: If you want to become a better photographer you do it through practice and repetition, not theory. I know it's the counterpoint to this thread, but don't let your camera collect dust, use it every day. Critique and then delete your own work. Get muscle memory to be your friend so you never miss that split second where you have the perfect shot. Obviously there is always more to learn (and you should), and clearly i'm NOT advocating that you upload all of your photos to instagram/facebook. But I am suggesting you will learn more by doing then you ever will reading theory. That being said, I bought Understanding Exposure http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Exposure-3rd-Edition-Photographs/dp/0817439390 http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Exposure-3rd-Edition-Pho... based on some HN recommendations (i think), and it covered the basics of everything I needed to know from a technical perspective. I recommend it if you are starting out.
- VLM 11y ago
  I miss when people spent more time looking at pictures than taking them.
  - sumoboy 11y ago
    Nothing better than seeing a picture on paper, that's the memory I want to look at.
developer2 11y ago
This certainly doesn't apply to me. I'm one of those nuts who gets annoyed by people taking out their shitty camera phones to record video during fireworks displays. It's so irritating to have everyone with their bright screens whiting out the night vision required to properly enjoy the show. Nobody even watches the fireworks anymore, as they're too busy staring at tiny blobs of color on their phone screen or preview window on the back of their camera. I've stopped going to fireworks shows. I also no longer go to the cinema, lest I murder a fellow moviegoer for using their fucking cell phone during the movie. If the cinema wants my dollar, they're going to have to install Faraday cages / jammers. Which will never happen, because "Think of the children - what if the babysitter has an emergency!" and "What if I need to call 911!". I can't imagine how people managed to watch a movie back before cell phones were the norm. How in the world did people disconnect from the digital network for 90-120 minutes?! It's unfathomable!
- mnw21cam 11y ago
  It is absolutely technically possible to make a Faraday cage and install a local emergency-services-only cell inside it. Rather, it is legal and societal implications as you mention that prevent this from being done.
- burkaman 11y ago
  You do sound like a nut. Watching fireworks is not stargazing, it's never that dark to begin with. And unless you're in NYC on the 4th of July, it's not that hard to find a spot a few feet away from someone with a camera and ignore them. And yes, cell phones at the movies are annoying. Sometimes people are annoying. If they didn't have cell phones, they would talk, or open loud snacks, or something. It's not a sacred temple, it's a movie theater, get over it.
- joosters 11y ago
  But don't you love the feeling of superiority as you scorn your fellow fireworks viewers? Surely this only enhances your experience? I hear you can even get magic internet points if you moan about it online too. I don't see the point of recording fireworks either, but the wonderful thing about fireworks is that they are big, bright and loud, meaning it's pretty much impossible to ruin someone else's viewing of them.

This is already as it is now.

by cammil 11y ago

This is already as it is now.

giancarlostoro 11y ago

I miss when pictures were meant for special moments / events, not for every single day.

deleted 11y ago
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tsylba 11y ago
I feel I can relate to that, I'm still in my twenties and has recently begun to see in myself and some of my friends this eternal shift from youth to 'adulthood' (this words don't reflect my points accurately but I lack the proper ones right now), the loosing track of the dominant (sub)culture(s), the "it was best before" phenomenon. But this is completely subjective, maybe "old age" come from the tiredness to be always updated / on page with the current trends, happy with our past experiences and memories. Is there a best moment ? somewhere everything has to change and everything will change.
marincounty 11y ago
I hope I'm alive when it's not socially acceptable to take/post pictures, and post them online. I have taken photographs for years. I love getting the right shot. I love photography. I have tons on pictures of loved ones, and all my pets. Hate to call them pets--they are family members. That said, I don't post every one online. Maybe it me, but I don't like people who post every aspect of their life. I understand posting if your genuinely excited about something, or have the need to share something new. I just cringe when I see a upwardly mobile individual take another picture of the beautiful meal. It was cute at first, but we all know you will have another beautiful plate of food in the future? We all know you have good bone structure. We all know you have tons of friends. It seems like too many people are using the Internet to publicize, re-engineer how they want world to view them? In my twisted world, a person's stock goes up if I can't immediately figure them out with a simple google search. I do understand people who are lonely, or have low self-esteem. I understand the need to overcompensate for the perfection this society expects of us. Less has become more in a lot of sectors.
- anexprogrammer 11y ago
  I totally agree with all of this. The cult of oversharing has devalued everything to the point of bankruptcy. Twenty years ago I didn't care what you had for dinner. Including a uncomposed phone pic of it doesn't mean I care now. Twenty once daily bad photos of your cat? No. The photos that I do care about - the well composed image from my semi-pro photographer friend, the photo of the meal celebrating your 20th anniversary or the photo of your animal companion doing something unusual are lost in the sea of mediocrity. I consistently took more pictures when I used a film SLR than I do now. I've almost completely stopped taking photos, and losing interest in photography. When we had film, we'd throw away the bad ones, and just keep the highlights. I'd take 36, and end up keeping just one. Now we take so many that we can't filter. But they're nearly all fit for the bin. Everyone now thinks they're a photographer though. Clearly they're not.
  - fluxquanta 11y ago
    I find these comments interesting, because I'm on the other end of the spectrum when it comes to photography -- I'm just now getting into it more than just casual phone photos. My father was a professional photographer back in the 70's. Not famous by any means, but a number of shots were published in magazines. He's getting up there in age. It feels like photography might be a way that I could connect with him a bit more since we're not super close, and I've been yearning to do something creative and artistic. So I decided to pick it up by purchasing a new DSLR and a few lenses. After refreshing my memory on ISO, aperture, shutter speed and taking a few hundred exposures I realized...photography is not easy. You can take thousands of photos and apply Instagram filters to them to your heart's content, but they just feel empty. So now I'm letting the camera collect a bit of dust while I read about theory and composition, and looking at others' photos to find out what makes them appealing (or not appealing).
    - asteadman 11y ago
      I'm just going to throw this out there: If you want to become a better photographer you do it through practice and repetition, not theory. I know it's the counterpoint to this thread, but don't let your camera collect dust, use it every day. Critique and then delete your own work. Get muscle memory to be your friend so you never miss that split second where you have the perfect shot. Obviously there is always more to learn (and you should), and clearly i'm NOT advocating that you upload all of your photos to instagram/facebook. But I am suggesting you will learn more by doing then you ever will reading theory. That being said, I bought Understanding Exposure http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Exposure-3rd-Edition-Photographs/dp/0817439390 http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Exposure-3rd-Edition-Pho... based on some HN recommendations (i think), and it covered the basics of everything I needed to know from a technical perspective. I recommend it if you are starting out.
VLM 11y ago
I miss when people spent more time looking at pictures than taking them.
- sumoboy 11y ago
  Nothing better than seeing a picture on paper, that's the memory I want to look at.

developer2 11y ago

This certainly doesn't apply to me. I'm one of those nuts who gets annoyed by people taking out their shitty camera phones to record video during fireworks displays. It's so irritating to have everyone with their bright screens whiting out the night vision required to properly enjoy the show. Nobody even watches the fireworks anymore, as they're too busy staring at tiny blobs of color on their phone screen or preview window on the back of their camera. I've stopped going to fireworks shows. I also no longer go to the cinema, lest I murder a fellow moviegoer for using their fucking cell phone during the movie. If the cinema wants my dollar, they're going to have to install Faraday cages / jammers. Which will never happen, because "Think of the children - what if the babysitter has an emergency!" and "What if I need to call 911!". I can't imagine how people managed to watch a movie back before cell phones were the norm. How in the world did people disconnect from the digital network for 90-120 minutes?! It's unfathomable!

mnw21cam 11y ago
It is absolutely technically possible to make a Faraday cage and install a local emergency-services-only cell inside it. Rather, it is legal and societal implications as you mention that prevent this from being done.
burkaman 11y ago
You do sound like a nut. Watching fireworks is not stargazing, it's never that dark to begin with. And unless you're in NYC on the 4th of July, it's not that hard to find a spot a few feet away from someone with a camera and ignore them. And yes, cell phones at the movies are annoying. Sometimes people are annoying. If they didn't have cell phones, they would talk, or open loud snacks, or something. It's not a sacred temple, it's a movie theater, get over it.
joosters 11y ago
But don't you love the feeling of superiority as you scorn your fellow fireworks viewers? Surely this only enhances your experience? I hear you can even get magic internet points if you moan about it online too. I don't see the point of recording fireworks either, but the wonderful thing about fireworks is that they are big, bright and loud, meaning it's pretty much impossible to ruin someone else's viewing of them.