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10X the assets => retire 10 times sooner => program when you're retired => no missing out

by tomp 11y ago

NhanH 11y ago
Retiring at 6 years old?
- eru 11y ago
  Retire after 10x shorter career..
pjmlp 11y ago
When one retires, there are lots of more interesting things to do with your life than spending the remaining days of your life in front of a computer screen.
- xiphias 11y ago
  Like what? The more I know about things outside programming, the more I see how interesting it is and how much boring, repeating stuff you have to go through to have fun in other parts of life.
  - Jtsummers 11y ago
    And you never have to do anything boring or repetitive as a programmer. Sure we can automate a lot of things away once we know how to do them. But the task of staying up to date or learning in the first place involves a ton of repetition. And then there's the repeated task of learning when you get to a new project with a new language and new hardware. Of course, you could just be repeatedly implementing the same thing with slight variations for years so minimal repetition in learning but maximal repetition in doing.
  - blazespin 11y ago
    Sailing!
  - cableshaft 11y ago
    Designing board games. But the pay is nowhere near as good as programming.
- imgabe 11y ago
  Everybody gets to decide for him or her self what is considered interesting.
Zelmor 11y ago
That's stupid. I am not willing to suffer for 20 years to then enjoy the remaining 30-40 whatever there will be. You don't know how long you will live, and what is your old days worth if you broken in your youth trying to be safe when you are 50? I'd rather work, as some do, 3-4 hours every single day for the rest of my life, than 12 hour days for 10 years and then compensate my lost youth, health and relationships with yachts or whatever money could buy. That is what socialism->communism was about in my country. We have to suffer just a little more and then we'll get there. Guess what. We never got there.
- tomp 11y ago
  Well, I'm sure you make some "enjoy the present" vs. "enjoy the future" tradeoffs (e.g. safe sex, hopefully). This trade-off will simply be different for each person. In any case, the author wasn't very clear on this, but it's not necessary that his sister (a manager) actually worked more; plenty of programmers work a lot as well (overnight support, weekend work, "we have a deadline next month" sprints, ...).
- wedowhatwedo 11y ago
  "I am not willing to suffer for 20 years to then enjoy the remaining 30-40 whatever there will be." I know people who suffered for many years, retired and then died within a couple of years. Don't be so sure you will live 30-40 years after retirement. You can never tell.
- waspleg 11y ago
  To be honest, this is a first world problem. Most people on Earth (and honestly, at least the in US, the majority of people http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/05/news/economy/job_satisfaction_report/ http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/05/news/economy/job_satisfactio...) work at a job they hate because they feel they have to for whatever reason be it survival or their kids or their bills, etc. My job is easy (for me), requires little from me and very occasionally is worth getting out of bed for. I'm probably one of the lowest paid people here. But, I take lunch when I want, I wear what I want, I have a situation that is somewhat flexible (not because the employer wants it to be and actively dissuades it, but because my co-worker and I will mutually look out for and cover for each other). The benefits are bad. Treatment by management ranges from indifference to overtly hostile for the most part. I'm not a programmer and would put myself somewhere in the middle satisfaction wise. The money sucks but I've had worse jobs and the time off (2 months a year), while unpaid, is great. $.02, my ultimate point was not worrying where your next meal is coming from is a luxury most people don't have - so worrying that you're not doing something fulfilling becomes a secondary concern at best.
VLM 11y ago
My dad never really retired, but lets just say he got extremely picky about the contracts he picked up and the people he would work with. Being able to do what you want, rather than what you need to do to survive, is pretty nice.
- feiss 11y ago
  Kudos to your dad. That's what I try to do, but my skills to say no are not very polished yet..
ska 11y ago
your first inference is incorrect. Lifetime earning potential is almost never linear.

10X the assets => retire 10 times sooner => program when you're retired => no missing out

by tomp 11y ago

10X the assets => retire 10 times sooner => program when you're retired => no missing out

NhanH 11y ago

Retiring at 6 years old?

eru 11y ago
Retire after 10x shorter career..

pjmlp 11y ago

When one retires, there are lots of more interesting things to do with your life than spending the remaining days of your life in front of a computer screen.

xiphias 11y ago
Like what? The more I know about things outside programming, the more I see how interesting it is and how much boring, repeating stuff you have to go through to have fun in other parts of life.
- Jtsummers 11y ago
  And you never have to do anything boring or repetitive as a programmer. Sure we can automate a lot of things away once we know how to do them. But the task of staying up to date or learning in the first place involves a ton of repetition. And then there's the repeated task of learning when you get to a new project with a new language and new hardware. Of course, you could just be repeatedly implementing the same thing with slight variations for years so minimal repetition in learning but maximal repetition in doing.
- blazespin 11y ago
  Sailing!
- cableshaft 11y ago
  Designing board games. But the pay is nowhere near as good as programming.
imgabe 11y ago
Everybody gets to decide for him or her self what is considered interesting.

Zelmor 11y ago

That's stupid. I am not willing to suffer for 20 years to then enjoy the remaining 30-40 whatever there will be. You don't know how long you will live, and what is your old days worth if you broken in your youth trying to be safe when you are 50? I'd rather work, as some do, 3-4 hours every single day for the rest of my life, than 12 hour days for 10 years and then compensate my lost youth, health and relationships with yachts or whatever money could buy. That is what socialism->communism was about in my country. We have to suffer just a little more and then we'll get there. Guess what. We never got there.

tomp 11y ago
Well, I'm sure you make some "enjoy the present" vs. "enjoy the future" tradeoffs (e.g. safe sex, hopefully). This trade-off will simply be different for each person. In any case, the author wasn't very clear on this, but it's not necessary that his sister (a manager) actually worked more; plenty of programmers work a lot as well (overnight support, weekend work, "we have a deadline next month" sprints, ...).
wedowhatwedo 11y ago
"I am not willing to suffer for 20 years to then enjoy the remaining 30-40 whatever there will be." I know people who suffered for many years, retired and then died within a couple of years. Don't be so sure you will live 30-40 years after retirement. You can never tell.
waspleg 11y ago
To be honest, this is a first world problem. Most people on Earth (and honestly, at least the in US, the majority of people http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/05/news/economy/job_satisfaction_report/ http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/05/news/economy/job_satisfactio...) work at a job they hate because they feel they have to for whatever reason be it survival or their kids or their bills, etc. My job is easy (for me), requires little from me and very occasionally is worth getting out of bed for. I'm probably one of the lowest paid people here. But, I take lunch when I want, I wear what I want, I have a situation that is somewhat flexible (not because the employer wants it to be and actively dissuades it, but because my co-worker and I will mutually look out for and cover for each other). The benefits are bad. Treatment by management ranges from indifference to overtly hostile for the most part. I'm not a programmer and would put myself somewhere in the middle satisfaction wise. The money sucks but I've had worse jobs and the time off (2 months a year), while unpaid, is great. $.02, my ultimate point was not worrying where your next meal is coming from is a luxury most people don't have - so worrying that you're not doing something fulfilling becomes a secondary concern at best.

VLM 11y ago

My dad never really retired, but lets just say he got extremely picky about the contracts he picked up and the people he would work with. Being able to do what you want, rather than what you need to do to survive, is pretty nice.

feiss 11y ago
Kudos to your dad. That's what I try to do, but my skills to say no are not very polished yet..

ska 11y ago

your first inference is incorrect. Lifetime earning potential is almost never linear.