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What I love is the number of people who keep espousing cloud services of every other nature. "Everything is already there! They're better at security than you!"

by sqldba 11y ago

What I love is the number of people who keep espousing cloud services of every other nature. "Everything is already there! They're better at security than you!" And then history shows services close down, change ownership, prices fluctuate, and there are inside and outside attacks and data loss. You try to tell people that though and they just close up and repeat the same argument. This is why I think repeatable installs / setups of infrastructure is important, and tested on self hosted infrastructure before bubbles pop.

chaostheory 11y ago
Sadly with home automation, most of the commercial turnkey products are cloud based and they can't run locally. Wink, Smarthings, Kasa, Homekit, Hue, Onhub, Nest, Mama... nearly everything relies on the cloud. Hopefully open source can provide a good substitute.
- Semaphor 11y ago
  How does hue rely on the cloud? It doesn't even need internet access unless you want to update the FW.
  - chaostheory 11y ago
    You're right. Hue doesn't require cloud access. Neither does MiCasa or WeMo.
dredmorbius 11y ago
I'm working out a concept based around the long tail of slowly-realised costs. It's another economic market problem, similar in regards to informational asymmetries (all information isn't equally available to all parties), but here, all information isn't equally available at all times. Market perceptions are based on promptly-evident information. If the immediate impression of a good is negative, then even large long-run benefits tend to be strongly discounted. If the immediate impressions are good, then even large long-run negative benefits are discounted. All the more so if those long-run effects aren't trivially evident. Take Thomas Midgely. Invented two compounds both of which had immediately evident benefits: freon and tetraethyl lead. Unfortunately for him, they both also had exceptionally bad long-term costs. I'm not aware of any similar concept in economics, though Gresham's Law is perhaps related.

by sqldba 11y ago

chaostheory 11y ago

Sadly with home automation, most of the commercial turnkey products are cloud based and they can't run locally. Wink, Smarthings, Kasa, Homekit, Hue, Onhub, Nest, Mama... nearly everything relies on the cloud. Hopefully open source can provide a good substitute.

Semaphor 11y ago
How does hue rely on the cloud? It doesn't even need internet access unless you want to update the FW.
- chaostheory 11y ago
  You're right. Hue doesn't require cloud access. Neither does MiCasa or WeMo.

dredmorbius 11y ago

I'm working out a concept based around the long tail of slowly-realised costs. It's another economic market problem, similar in regards to informational asymmetries (all information isn't equally available to all parties), but here, all information isn't equally available at all times. Market perceptions are based on promptly-evident information. If the immediate impression of a good is negative, then even large long-run benefits tend to be strongly discounted. If the immediate impressions are good, then even large long-run negative benefits are discounted. All the more so if those long-run effects aren't trivially evident. Take Thomas Midgely. Invented two compounds both of which had immediately evident benefits: freon and tetraethyl lead. Unfortunately for him, they both also had exceptionally bad long-term costs. I'm not aware of any similar concept in economics, though Gresham's Law is perhaps related.