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A couple clarifications if you don't mind then ;) - If you don't want those pages indexed in Google then why are you submitting them in an XML sitemap? - I ha

A couple clarifications if you don't mind then ;) - If you don't want those pages indexed in Google then why are you submitting them in an XML sitemap? - I have already shown examples of the 0 original content pages ranking, so how can you claim that they do not rank? - You are not scraping directly, you are pulling from 3rd party sites and using it as content on your own site. Which is worse, because there is no way to opt out of it. - My problem is not just with what you call stub pages, but with most of your pages. When you give people embed code to embed your content in their site you give them an iframe AND a direct link back to you. If you want me to stop highlighting the absurdity of it then perhaps you should hold yourself to the same standards as what you offer others. But you do just the opposite when you embed 3rd party content in your site. You slap a nofollow on the links and embed the content directly into the page (rather than in an iframe). - Worth noting that every time I mention the above point you end up talking about stub pages or experiments or some other strategy to try to redirect attention. But in reality, what I am talking about is what you do on almost every page of your website.

jasonmcalacanis 17y ago
1. everything in site is in the sitemap... it's not selective. it will be shortly. 2. they don't get traffic is my point... we look at any page that gets over 100 page views in a month and we build those pages out. so, even if you find a page that ranks it will not have traffic. if it has traffic it gets built out. 3. we are not scraping, we are using search APIs 4. i dont understand this issue of our widgets (which don't get used to be honest.. it's a failed program) 5. this is simply false... our traffic comes from how to articles, walkthroughs and Q&A. if you want to know what the top 10 pages are they are things like how to play guitar and call of duty walkthrough pages. those things are 3-5k words! just lay off dude... go troll someone else.
- byrneseyeview 17y ago
  What fraction of your traffic comes from those 3-5K-word articles? And what's your return on investment from those compared to, e.g., one of the pages that Aaron linked? I'm curious! I'm in the content-creation business, and if what you're doing works, I'll either need to radically change what I do or to start copying you.
- aaronwall 17y ago
  - 1. everything in site is in the sitemap... it's not selective. it will be shortly. Ah, so now you admit it was intentional. But good on you for (eventually? hopefully?) fixing it. - 2. they don't get traffic is my point... we look at any page that gets over 100 page views in a month and we build those pages out. so, even if you find a page that ranks it will not have traffic. if it has traffic it gets built out. If a person has a quarter million pages that are getting 5 visits each that is still a lot of traffic. Especially when the page has 0 editorial costs. - 3. we are not scraping, we are using search APIs The end result is what people would typically call a "scrapper site". It is irrelevant how it is created (if you scrape directly or syndicate from somewhere else that is scraping). The issue is a lack of editorial control (see your page about 13 year old rape) and a lack of citing sources with links. - 4. i dont understand this issue of our widgets (which don't get used to be honest.. it's a failed program) Search engines have duplicate content filters. If the content is within the page as HTML (as you do on Mahalo) then you can often outrank the original source for their own content. You bypass this issue and me mentioning it if you only use an iframe to embed the content in your pages. But if you embed it directly into the HTML (as you are doing right now) then of course it is bogus. - 5. this is simply false... our traffic comes from how to articles, walkthroughs and Q&A. if you want to know what the top 10 pages are they are things like how to play guitar and call of duty walkthrough pages. those things are 3-5k words! I am not talking about your top 10 pages. I am talking about the bottom 300,000 pages, which in aggregate get far more traffic than the top 10 pages do. :D - just lay off dude... go troll someone else. Not trolling at all. Just trying to give you valuable feedback, as you have claimed it to be publicly multiple times (unless you were lying when you stated that) :D
  - jasonmcalacanis 17y ago
    Anyway, we're deleting any short pages right now and noindexing any short pages. this will all be done in the next 72 hours and then there will be nothing to complain or write about after that Aaron! Thanks for making us better.
    - houseabsolute 17y ago
      Passive aggressiveness looks good on you.
- benatlas 17y ago
  This is not a small matter, this destroys the internet for the rest of us. The Internet becomes unusable and untrustworthy. And you are doing this in a profitable collusion with Google. You cynically going where Google pushes you.
jasonmcalacanis 17y ago
These are the pages that get traffic at Mahalo: 1. Breaking news: http://www.mahalo.com/nhra-fan-killed http://www.mahalo.com/nhra-fan-killed http://www.mahalo.com/andrew-koenig http://www.mahalo.com/andrew-koenig http://www.mahalo.com/bloom-box http://www.mahalo.com/bloom-box 2. How To articles http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-speak-french http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-speak-french http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-play-guitar-for-newbies http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-play-guitar-for-newbies 3. Walkthrough articles with our videos! dozens of them here: http://www.mahalo.com/walkthrough http://www.mahalo.com/walkthrough http://www.mahalo.com/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-walkthrough http://www.mahalo.com/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-walkthro... is there something wrong with this pages?

jasonmcalacanis 17y ago

1. everything in site is in the sitemap... it's not selective. it will be shortly. 2. they don't get traffic is my point... we look at any page that gets over 100 page views in a month and we build those pages out. so, even if you find a page that ranks it will not have traffic. if it has traffic it gets built out. 3. we are not scraping, we are using search APIs 4. i dont understand this issue of our widgets (which don't get used to be honest.. it's a failed program) 5. this is simply false... our traffic comes from how to articles, walkthroughs and Q&A. if you want to know what the top 10 pages are they are things like how to play guitar and call of duty walkthrough pages. those things are 3-5k words! just lay off dude... go troll someone else.

byrneseyeview 17y ago
What fraction of your traffic comes from those 3-5K-word articles? And what's your return on investment from those compared to, e.g., one of the pages that Aaron linked? I'm curious! I'm in the content-creation business, and if what you're doing works, I'll either need to radically change what I do or to start copying you.
aaronwall 17y ago
- 1. everything in site is in the sitemap... it's not selective. it will be shortly. Ah, so now you admit it was intentional. But good on you for (eventually? hopefully?) fixing it. - 2. they don't get traffic is my point... we look at any page that gets over 100 page views in a month and we build those pages out. so, even if you find a page that ranks it will not have traffic. if it has traffic it gets built out. If a person has a quarter million pages that are getting 5 visits each that is still a lot of traffic. Especially when the page has 0 editorial costs. - 3. we are not scraping, we are using search APIs The end result is what people would typically call a "scrapper site". It is irrelevant how it is created (if you scrape directly or syndicate from somewhere else that is scraping). The issue is a lack of editorial control (see your page about 13 year old rape) and a lack of citing sources with links. - 4. i dont understand this issue of our widgets (which don't get used to be honest.. it's a failed program) Search engines have duplicate content filters. If the content is within the page as HTML (as you do on Mahalo) then you can often outrank the original source for their own content. You bypass this issue and me mentioning it if you only use an iframe to embed the content in your pages. But if you embed it directly into the HTML (as you are doing right now) then of course it is bogus. - 5. this is simply false... our traffic comes from how to articles, walkthroughs and Q&A. if you want to know what the top 10 pages are they are things like how to play guitar and call of duty walkthrough pages. those things are 3-5k words! I am not talking about your top 10 pages. I am talking about the bottom 300,000 pages, which in aggregate get far more traffic than the top 10 pages do. :D - just lay off dude... go troll someone else. Not trolling at all. Just trying to give you valuable feedback, as you have claimed it to be publicly multiple times (unless you were lying when you stated that) :D
- jasonmcalacanis 17y ago
  Anyway, we're deleting any short pages right now and noindexing any short pages. this will all be done in the next 72 hours and then there will be nothing to complain or write about after that Aaron! Thanks for making us better.
  - houseabsolute 17y ago
    Passive aggressiveness looks good on you.
benatlas 17y ago
This is not a small matter, this destroys the internet for the rest of us. The Internet becomes unusable and untrustworthy. And you are doing this in a profitable collusion with Google. You cynically going where Google pushes you.

jasonmcalacanis 17y ago

These are the pages that get traffic at Mahalo: 1. Breaking news: http://www.mahalo.com/nhra-fan-killed http://www.mahalo.com/nhra-fan-killed http://www.mahalo.com/andrew-koenig http://www.mahalo.com/andrew-koenig http://www.mahalo.com/bloom-box http://www.mahalo.com/bloom-box 2. How To articles http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-speak-french http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-speak-french http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-play-guitar-for-newbies http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-play-guitar-for-newbies 3. Walkthrough articles with our videos! dozens of them here: http://www.mahalo.com/walkthrough http://www.mahalo.com/walkthrough http://www.mahalo.com/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-walkthrough http://www.mahalo.com/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-walkthro... is there something wrong with this pages?