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The media and law enforcement have been so misleadingly sensational in the past about every drug that it is hard to take them seriously anymore. Flakka sure so

The media and law enforcement have been so misleadingly sensational in the past about every drug that it is hard to take them seriously anymore. Flakka sure sounds pretty bad but who could know? After watching Reefer Madness you realize that you can't trust a thing that comes out of their mouths. I was systematically filled with all sorts of non truths about drugs as a kid in the DARE program. You don't forget being misled like that when you are so impressionable.

trhway 11y ago
>you can't trust a thing that comes out of their mouths. I was systematically filled with all sorts of non truths about drugs as a kid in the DARE program. while we didn't have drugs, i remember that 2 big scares adults were filling us with were proved by experience through like 4-6th grade to be fundamentally untrue, ie. even after 40 years in the ground the WWII munitions without detonators don't accidentally explode just by virtue of disturbing/moving them (it is actually some effort to make them explode), and your palms don't become hairy.
- eru 11y ago
  Oh, I always assumed the WWII munitions caution in eg Germany was (a) general good gun culture (as an extension of `always treat weapons like they are loaded') and (b) a relict of earlier times just after the war.
  - makomk 11y ago
    No, the WWII munitions caution in Germany is because some of them are still deadly: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/routine-disposal-goes-wrong-three-killed-in-explosion-of-world-war-ii-bomb-in-germany-a-698245.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/routine-disposal...
- makomk 11y ago
  The trouble with WWII munitions buried in the ground is that a lot of them do still have detonators and after being buried in the ground for a few decades you have no idea what state they're in - they can be rather rather unstable. Some of the bombs were also designed to detonate when moved in order to kill bomb disposal workers.
  - trhway 11y ago
    It is not about discussing on technical details - we're all adults and nobody of us is going to touch that stuff in any condition :) The post was about a junior midschooler - me more than 30 years ago - who during that time had with friends found and "responsibly recycled" (in the forest outside of the city :) a range of various WWII munitions without any issues (while adults at the military installations and Navy base in the city had pretty regularly various mishaps, sometimes deadly, with their weapons systems and hardware) Today, if i had a son, i'd be trying to scare him away from the stuff the same way (or even stronger as the same way didn't work on us back then), and i'd tear him a new one if i caught him with a hand grenade in the backpack :). It is the circle of life i guess...
- woodman 11y ago
  Razors in Halloween candy.
- reality_czech 11y ago
  1. WWII ended 71 years ago, not 40. 2. WWII munitions still kill people. http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/01/how-many-tons-of-world-war-ii-munitions-are-found-in-germany-each-year/282807/ http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/01/how-ma... 3. However you feel about them morally, illegal drugs are extremely dangerous. 44k people die from drug overdoses every year. http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/01/how-many-tons-of-world-war-ii-munitions-are-found-in-germany-each-year/282807/ http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/01/how-ma...
  - trhway 11y ago
    >However you feel about them morally, illegal drugs are extremely dangerous. 44k people die from drug overdoses every year. Most danger in drug business and drug use stems from the illegality of drugs, and isn't intrinsic to the drugs itself. For example, even basic consumer protection laws and quality control is disabled for drugs because of the illegality of the drugs. So you have heroin mixed with fentanyl while most people have no idea that it is there and what such mix is capable of (was mentioned recently as one of the killers in current wave of overdoses in US).
jtmcmc 11y ago
flakka - alpha-PVP is a cathinone that has a fairly low dose and is a pretty strong stimulant and often is sold represented as ecstasy/mdma/molly. I feel there is a lot of sensationalizing in the media about it, but it's real danger is the amount of times it's being misrepresented which poses a real danger due to people taking incorrect doses.

trhway 11y ago

>you can't trust a thing that comes out of their mouths. I was systematically filled with all sorts of non truths about drugs as a kid in the DARE program. while we didn't have drugs, i remember that 2 big scares adults were filling us with were proved by experience through like 4-6th grade to be fundamentally untrue, ie. even after 40 years in the ground the WWII munitions without detonators don't accidentally explode just by virtue of disturbing/moving them (it is actually some effort to make them explode), and your palms don't become hairy.

eru 11y ago
Oh, I always assumed the WWII munitions caution in eg Germany was (a) general good gun culture (as an extension of `always treat weapons like they are loaded') and (b) a relict of earlier times just after the war.
- makomk 11y ago
  No, the WWII munitions caution in Germany is because some of them are still deadly: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/routine-disposal-goes-wrong-three-killed-in-explosion-of-world-war-ii-bomb-in-germany-a-698245.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/routine-disposal...
makomk 11y ago
The trouble with WWII munitions buried in the ground is that a lot of them do still have detonators and after being buried in the ground for a few decades you have no idea what state they're in - they can be rather rather unstable. Some of the bombs were also designed to detonate when moved in order to kill bomb disposal workers.
- trhway 11y ago
  It is not about discussing on technical details - we're all adults and nobody of us is going to touch that stuff in any condition :) The post was about a junior midschooler - me more than 30 years ago - who during that time had with friends found and "responsibly recycled" (in the forest outside of the city :) a range of various WWII munitions without any issues (while adults at the military installations and Navy base in the city had pretty regularly various mishaps, sometimes deadly, with their weapons systems and hardware) Today, if i had a son, i'd be trying to scare him away from the stuff the same way (or even stronger as the same way didn't work on us back then), and i'd tear him a new one if i caught him with a hand grenade in the backpack :). It is the circle of life i guess...
woodman 11y ago
Razors in Halloween candy.
reality_czech 11y ago
1. WWII ended 71 years ago, not 40. 2. WWII munitions still kill people. http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/01/how-many-tons-of-world-war-ii-munitions-are-found-in-germany-each-year/282807/ http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/01/how-ma... 3. However you feel about them morally, illegal drugs are extremely dangerous. 44k people die from drug overdoses every year. http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/01/how-many-tons-of-world-war-ii-munitions-are-found-in-germany-each-year/282807/ http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/01/how-ma...
- trhway 11y ago
  >However you feel about them morally, illegal drugs are extremely dangerous. 44k people die from drug overdoses every year. Most danger in drug business and drug use stems from the illegality of drugs, and isn't intrinsic to the drugs itself. For example, even basic consumer protection laws and quality control is disabled for drugs because of the illegality of the drugs. So you have heroin mixed with fentanyl while most people have no idea that it is there and what such mix is capable of (was mentioned recently as one of the killers in current wave of overdoses in US).

jtmcmc 11y ago

flakka - alpha-PVP is a cathinone that has a fairly low dose and is a pretty strong stimulant and often is sold represented as ecstasy/mdma/molly. I feel there is a lot of sensationalizing in the media about it, but it's real danger is the amount of times it's being misrepresented which poses a real danger due to people taking incorrect doses.